if you see me, feel free to sit- i have a case of run-bad for which there seems to be no cure.

still at 90 thanks to playing 210fpp in a satellite to the 200k.

I created a bankroll of $25.00 and have played nearly 3000 hands... Using proper bankroll management, 4 tabeling .01/.02 NL... i've watched alot of great videos(nearly 16 hours worth now) and done way to much reading on the subject that has helped to increase my chances nearly 10 fold it seems.. Ive played 12 sessions now to get to that 3000 hand mark and have not had a losing session yet... mind you im not raking it in the coals or anything as far as cash build up goes.. but I have doubled my bankroll now and have learned alot along the way... If your half way serious about this game and want to improve and not just live for the "thrill" stay at .01/.02nl until you hit $100 in your roll then move up to .02/.05... thats my plan anyway, and i've read numerous articles and seen a few videos that says this is proper bankroll management. I've played nearly 6 years worth of poker now, both live and online.. and have been a break even player.. after devoting countless hours of reading and watching this past month my play has changed nearly 100%. Im still low on the bankroll and still have much to learn... I've found that just about everyone "including myself not that long ago" thinks they are a poker genius and every move they make is the correct move no questions asked... you have to come to realize that maybe your just not that good(as people not so kindly pointed out to me on here) and take advice, and read read read... if i can make any sort of progress at this game anyone can.... anyway, the most easiest thing to do in this game is have proper bankroll management and it seems its often the first mistake of everyone (including myself). I'm in no way considering myself any kind of poker god, just a beginner that finaly acknowledged that he just wasn't that good... that was the first step to alot of progress for me..

Well this looks like a great spot to get me first post under my belt.

Im sure everyone has told there "how i got started story" so sorry if it bores you but you gotta start somewhere right...

Would like to start off by saying I really enjoy checking in here every morning and being on the up and up in the poker world. There is just a wealth of knowledge here. Thanks for a great place to learn.

Made a first deposit on PS of 25$. Took about a month at the .01/.02 tables to lose down to 5$. Then deposited another 25$ about 3 months ago. It has taken me a little over 2 months playing around 20hrs a week at the .1/.2 tables and I finnaly made my goal of 100$. I did play some SnG's, mainly the $1 ST DoN's and the $1 45man turbos. In about 30 SnG's i had two 2nd places and one 3rd and finsihed ITM two other times. I did won my first $1 45man turbo last night! I credit it to the massive heater i went on right before the final table, but none the less i still won it. I got a few (wow's) when we sat at the final table as i had 21k and everyone else was sitting with under 6k. Man thats a good feeling!

So now that i reached my goal of 100$, I moved up to .2/.5 micro's and my next goal is 250$ before i move up to .5/.10.

2-4 tabling the micro's and average 8-10 SnG's a night playing for about 2-4 hours.

In terms of money i know my measly 100$ is nothing but im pretty darn happy with myself sticking to it and making my first goal. Seems like that was the toughest to reach.

So i would like to credit alot of people on here for helping me get there and thank everyone again for the abundance of knowledge that can be found here.

Haven't been playing much, but slid down to $55. Next month I have carved out quite a bit of time for grinding.

Cliff, that is awesome! What videos are you watching? One of the training sites?

Lowlife, if I can ever manage to break 100 maybe you'll see me there with you I'm sitting at 96 right now.

Good luck!

Youve played 2.8k hands and decide that those countless others before you who had played 100s of thousands of hands at micro-stakes are wrong? *shakes head* Bluffing at micro, you will go busto.
Cbets on the other hand are a different matter.

How many hands? How many tables? Where you sitting in with 100bb or 250bb stacks? FR? 6max? Winrate is expressed as ptbb/100 hands . At 2NL, a ptbb/100 is .04. Anything over 8ptbb/100 hands over a large hand size is good. By hand size I mean 30k hands and more.

true but this particular example just makes my brain wanna explode. Its not even poker, its just a form bingo or shooting craps. I took my $2 and sat down @ a 2NL and played poker. True 2NL can be close to a crapshoot at times but its a lot closer than the sats I occasionaly play for 71fpp into the Sunday 200k.

AGGRESSIVE BANKROLL MANAGEMENT

I really wish someone had of said something about this to me when I was playing NL2. I did it to a degree anyway but not enough and it slowed down my progress.

I simply don't think it is necessary to have 20 buyins for NL5 before you decide to move up to it, especially when building a roll from 20$.

Think about using a staggered bankroll management. The 20 buyin rule is simple, but it just isn't ideal. Just like you don't want to move up to NL400 when you only have 20 buyins, you simple don't need 20 buyins to move up through the uber-micros. NL2 and NL5 for example play almost exactly the same. You can play weak-tight and still beat these games, especially sitting deep.

A staggered bankroll management means moving up to NL5 when you have something like 8 buyins. Moving up to NL10 when you have 14 buyins and moving up to NL25 when you have 20. Of course, the corollary of this is that you have to move down that much quicker when you do start to lose. Move down when you have 6 buyins - 12 buyins etc.

These numbers aren't definitive. I haven't calculated the perfect time to move up or down based on buyins, and I can't because only you are going to be able to determine what will work for you, but don't just assume 20 is ideal because it's the standard rule.

GL.

12 tabling $1.10 45 mans today

Up $62


Do you think its possible to make Gold Star (1,735 VVP needed) by the end of this month? Just wondering b/c I think it is but have to get like 150 VVP a day for the next 12 days.

Are more people agreeing on this? because I got the feeling 20 buyins for 5NL is a bit much.

lol, it can feel that way-- but if you play supertight, you pretty much only have to double up twice in order to get into the money. That makes these ridiciulously easy to grind.

I've tried the 70fpps tourneys, but find the 210 are much easier to win. 1:7 vs 6:20.

Is it plausible to play a bit more aggressively at lower levels in terms of moving up? Yes. Would it be advised, not really. The defining thing here I guess really comes to the point, are you disciplined to effectively move back down if you hit a downswing? 10BI on a bad downswing can kill your BR, so you need to have a point to switch gears back down to protect your BR. 20BI is generally the idea to be able to handle a common variance you may run into, I'd highly advise sticking to it.

Do realize you can also sit at a higher stake table w/ the same buy in you were at but realize this is limiting your game tactics, short stacking. I'd just stick to 20BI and make sure you sit w/ 100BB.

Ok ill grind to $100 then, I am at about $32 now :P
Havent had a serious downswing in about 6000 hands though, I wonder if they are ever gonna happen at 2NL

Average pot in NL2 and NL5 is about the same, so I don't see point in playing it, it will just cost you more in blinds.

I think that's a bit wrong... Looking at tables as functioning now Nl2 is ~$0.50 AVG, NL5 is holding ~$1 AVG. I think that is a pretty big difference.

After playing a ton of mtt's on ftp the other day, I found myself around $25 again. So I started playing the $3.80 super turbos... so much fun. Currently up to $47.19.

I have played pretty tight working my way up from the micros. I managed to grind out 125$ and never lost even 1 full BI, that is until last night i lost my first 1BI. lol. I had pocket K's. I raise prf, get re-raised to 1$. Call. Flop comes 4J8 raindow board. Guy bets out 3$, i shove over him with around 8$ and he calls an shows pocket rockets of course. Should i have just shoved prf instead. Didnt have much info on villian but obv didnt think he held them. Horrible shove on my part i thought. Anyway, after 3 months of grinding the micros that the first full BI ive lost. I didnt bother me as much as i thought it would. Just told myself i would make it up later. Around 11pm i did make back that full BI plus some. That lifted the spirits.

Am i playing way overly tight, to have only lost 1 full BI? Earlier in the session I made 14$ on 4 tbls within an hour (good hour for my standards). So i guess i started to loosin up a bit. Maybe a bit to much. So last night had a little more variance than i have experienced yet at the micros. Up 11$, down 15$, up 15$. So i managed to come on top with 11$. Not bad considering the bad shove i thought i made.

I would say that depending on the situation, that shove i made could be profitable and probably would be. Thoughts? Not every time villian will have A's over my K's.

Thoughts on that shove?

I need to keep my full ring butt out of multitabling 6 max games. This morning I was at 100 until I thought- eh, full ring just ain't enough excitement for the moment. Enter 8 tables of 6 max and a string of marginal hands. I'm gonna filter 6max from my dbase results until the urge to kick myself has passed.

-10 dollars went poof to the 60max fishies of the world, thank you very much.

FULL RING REHAB PROGRAM-- solution, runhot. Recoup the morning donation.




The hand in the middle was having the nut flush against two other flushes.

This was another quite succesfull hour of pokering, a return of 6 dollar for 1,5 hour is quite nice I suppose.

Hey guys!

I'm redoing my $50-$5k adventure and so far I have played nothing but nl2.

I'll move up each lv with 25 Buy Ins.

This is my graph so far:


I'll be moving up to nl5 when I reach $125 in profit! Hope to see you guys at the tables (in position)

That 50-5k adventure sounds kinda fun. Want company?

NOOOOoooooooo!!!!!




BR mngment plz

Lol IAM, but yeah That BR is too low to handle much variance at those buyins.

Sure, let's have a competition!

My blog is at http://50to5k.blogspot.com

I post details there. Last time I did it, I ran it up to 1.8k =P