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04-20-2009 , 07:52 PM
Seriously scundered with poker atm. Im on such a ghey breakeven streak its not even funny anymore.

4 tabling today and one table i was just getting beat up on. But it was full of fish. Coolered like fu*k. Donated 2 BI to a fish with KK, he called Pot Sized Bets for 2 streets w Bottom Pair and hit 2pair on river

Few hands later against him my QQ runs into his AA

Got QQ AIPF against aggro fish later against AA again. Fricking hate variance.

Think im gona stay clear of playing for a few days. Kinda tilting slightly. Maybe spend a few day going over my HEM and looking for leaks. As its something i dont do as often as i should.

/rant
04-20-2009 , 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer
if I table selected, yes.
1:1 ?
04-21-2009 , 10:57 AM
I'm a little confused.....i'm playing on a NL2 table, and the VPIP/PFR averages are 17/14. This isn't normal for a 6max NL2 game.
04-21-2009 , 12:13 PM
only need to find a few nits at one table. Just change tables.
04-21-2009 , 12:15 PM
It broke not long after i posted, so switched tables and found a nice cash dispenser sitting to my left
04-21-2009 , 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raze
1:1 ?
Of course not. One thing about props is you shouldn't settle for less than you can get. And 1:1 is quite a decent amount lower than you can probably get.
04-21-2009 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer
Of course not. One thing about props is you shouldn't settle for less than you can get. And 1:1 is quite a decent amount lower than you can probably get.
You'd never get more then 1:1 for this bet cruzer, the bettor takes alot of risk as this is HU and angle shooting is easy.
04-21-2009 , 05:05 PM
Oh, man....

I was so excited when I capped 6th and 7th with a friggin wheel at 5/10 (Razz), I was fist pumping every click (lol fixedlimitments)... turns out it was a split. =(

/wrist
04-21-2009 , 05:53 PM
So I'm playing this guy HU, and hes talking smack showing bluffs.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): $119.20
BB: $97.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with A 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 4 J 2 (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $9, BB raises to $29, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Final Pot: $24.00
BB shows 9 7 (Jack Nine high)
BB wins $23.50
(Rake: $0.50)

Good thing I get the exact same hand about 5 minutes after .

Hero (BTN/SB): $106.70
BB: $107.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 7
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A A Q (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($18.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($42.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero raises to $85.70 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: $102.00
Hero shows 9 7 (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $101.50
(Rake: $0.50)

He insta leaves.
04-21-2009 , 08:49 PM
There's so much bluffing involved HU. But the fact that it was the same hand is kinda cool.
04-22-2009 , 03:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
Oh, man....

I was so excited when I capped 6th and 7th with a friggin wheel at 5/10 (Razz), I was fist pumping every click (lol fixedlimitments)... turns out it was a split. =(

/wrist
Did he have the wheel already, or did he make it on 6th or 7th?
04-22-2009 , 04:29 AM
We both made it on 7th; I had a nut 6 on 6th, he had a second or third nut 6, forgot. Just a huge cooler either way.
04-22-2009 , 08:19 AM
Epitome of "standard".

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $100.85
Hero (BTN/SB): $105.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with K K
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $15, BB raises to $34, Hero raises to $105.45 all in, BB calls $66.85 all in

Flop: ($201.70) 6 3 2

Turn: ($201.70) 7

River: ($201.70) 8

Final Pot: $201.70
BB shows A A (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BB wins $201.20
(Rake: $0.50)
04-22-2009 , 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
Epitome of "standard".

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $100.85
Hero (BTN/SB): $105.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with K K
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $15, BB raises to $34, Hero raises to $105.45 all in, BB calls $66.85 all in

Flop: ($201.70) 6 3 2

Turn: ($201.70) 7

River: ($201.70) 8

Final Pot: $201.70
BB shows A A (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BB wins $201.20
(Rake: $0.50)
too much leveling going on in this^ hand
04-22-2009 , 09:22 AM
the 5bet is always AA lol

Actually have done well and havent played since my rant although i did sweat my little bro in a tournie last nite, his last few dollars < BR management FTW lol although he only plays for fun, doesnt mind reloading every now and then etc.

Its a pity because i think with a little guidance he could actually be a decent player. But meh what can i do
04-22-2009 , 09:38 AM
Quote:
too much leveling going on in this^ hand
Quote:
the 5bet is always AA lol
You guys are leveling me, right? T_T I don't know anymore. I actually didn't fistpump my shove, being that deep, but I still think it's sick. I give up on HU. That shtick be crazy.
04-22-2009 , 09:42 AM
I was levelling tbh but 200 deep its a tough one, but its heads up. Wait for cruzer, let him decide if its standard lol
04-22-2009 , 10:33 AM
It was the first 5bet in like, dunno 100 hands? Less than 150. I've 4bet about 3 times, folded to a 5bet once. Villain does not stack off with worse than QQ AK here, and I wonder if he would at all, even though I'd snap shove QQ vs an unknown for 200bbs. I still consider it a standard cooler though, I mean, guys, this is HU ffs.
04-22-2009 , 10:40 AM
eve 200 deep i think its fine to get it in...if villain can have AA,AK or QQ here...even more so as there is some 4betting dynamics

and since its 50nl you will sometimes see like JJ or TT

04-22-2009 , 11:20 AM
I don't know if it's a 50NL thing, I think it'd be hard for any aggressive player to fold JJ in this spot, but he was a bit bad (but so am I, I guess?)

I mean, if I were playing anyway halfway good, I'd be getting 3bet/4bet a tonne, and JJ would be way above my 4betting range, and in fact... it was ahead of my 4bet range, I just happened to have kings there, and he happened to have aces. I mean, I do do open 100% vs unknowns, and toned down to like 80-90% after he started calling more, but certainly if he 3bet anywhere close to as much as he should've I'd have expected him to stack off with worse...

but as it stood he's a terrible nit and I am the maniac who outleveled himself thinking he'd do it worse (I also stacked off vs AK earlier one session when I 3bet, flop came K high and I 2 barrel shoved lol).
04-22-2009 , 11:24 AM
i prob wouldnt 4b JJ 200bbs deep as a standard, but i dont play a lot of hu. obv opponent dependent
04-22-2009 , 11:56 AM
Hmm, okay I guess not. I wouldn't either, 200bbs deep.

Anyway, here's the story of how I cheated myself of too dallas fiddy.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Limit Razz $0.50 Ante - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

3rd Street:
Hero: 6 5 4
Seat 2: xx xx J
Seat 3: xx xx A
Seat 4: xx xx K
Seat 5: xx xx 2
Seat 6: xx xx A
Seat 7: xx xx 9
Seat 8: xx xx T

Seat 4 brings in for $1, Seat 5 calls, Seat 6 completes, Seat 7 calls, Seat 8 folds, Hero raises, Seat 2 folds, Seat 3 folds, Seat 4 folds, Seat 5 3-bets, Seat 6 calls, Seat 7 calls, Hero calls

4th Street: (13.667 SB) (4 players)
Hero: 6 5 4 8
Seat 5: xx xx 2 3
Seat 6: xx xx A 5
Seat 7: xx xx 9 7

Seat 5 bets, Seat 6 folds, Seat 7 calls, Hero calls

5th Street: (8.333 BB) (3 players)
Hero: 6 5 4 8 4
Seat 5: xx xx 2 3 2
Seat 7: xx xx 9 7 3

Seat 7 bets, Hero calls, Seat 5 calls

6th Street: (11.333 BB) (3 players)
Hero: 6 5 4 8 4 A
Seat 5: xx xx 2 3 2 6
Seat 7: xx xx 9 7 3 2

Seat 7 bets, Hero calls, Seat 5 calls

7th Street: (14.333 BB) (3 players)
Hero: 6 5 4 8 4 A 3
Seat 5: xx xx 2 3 2 6 xx
Seat 7: xx xx 9 7 3 2 xx

Seat 7 bets, Hero raises, Seat 5 folds, Seat 7 3-bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 20.333 BB
Hero shows 6 5 4 8 4 A 3 (6,5,4,3,A)
Seat 7 shows 8 4 9 7 3 2 A (7,4,3,2,A)
Hero wins 19.833 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

Please don't laugh at my raise... I only tried to squeeze value from the fish with an okay equity hand =(
04-22-2009 , 12:22 PM
Just been trying to sort out my PT3 HUD for 6max cash games and came across this interesting stat

Float River - How is this even possible?

Also, am i missing something in not seeing a 'Donk Flop' stat?

Last edited by Chachava; 04-22-2009 at 12:24 PM. Reason: Cause i was being a retard and forgetting about checking the BB
04-22-2009 , 01:25 PM
also there appears to be no 'Float Flop' stat available either.....i feel i must be missing something really simple here
04-22-2009 , 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boythinks
eve 200 deep i think its fine to get it in...if villain can have AA,AK or QQ here...even more so as there is some 4betting dynamics

and since its 50nl you will sometimes see like JJ or TT

Are you joking? lol. Its a fistpump with kings.

      
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