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04-18-2009 , 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikealDH
Sorry Ro for interfering with your action via the jakewilcox propbet, but come on you can't hustle someone on begginners like that.
Actually, he's not a beginner, he's an SSNL reg, just sayin'

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Quote:
Just looked at that thread, that guy is clearly not a complete beginner, and tbh seems like a bit of a douche to me. tableratings has him beating nl100 at 3BB/100... i sense some ego coming into play.
Ooops, you beat me to it.

TBH, 3BB/100 is pretty decent, and he's probably a decent player, which is why I find it strange. I think any decent player should have a decent grasp on what is achievable and what is not, and 15ptbb/100 at 50NL is sort of bs. If he can maintain that at 50NL, why would he play 100NL, or even 200NL for 3ptbb/100? Doesn't make sense. I think even for a very very good player, 15ptbb/100 at 50NL is close to impossible, I mean, come on, that's only achievable if your villains never top pair no kicker and would routinely spew in other ways, and even then you have to run good.

So this is not about me thinking he plays bad, I just think it highly unlikely that many players can do it, and if a player can do it, he's probably going to win a LOT more money doing something else than this silly prop bet.

Therefore, imo my side of the bet is for all practical purposes definitely +EV, unless some decided to take it just to take my money at the cost of their own time. So. uhhh. lol?

Last edited by RoSeeker; 04-18-2009 at 05:10 PM.
04-18-2009 , 06:58 PM
I know i'm only playing for a laugh tonight and i'm gonna re-deposit if i lose a fair amount......but FFS i'm sick of complete f**king ******s hitting every single ridiculous draw.

I'm pretty sure i played this terribly, but i'm sure villains play was worse...i may be wrong though



Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 Limit Stud Hi/Lo Tournament - t100/t200 Limit + t20 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Seat 1: t3362 M = 12.45
Hero (): t3724 M = 13.79
Seat 3: t4720 M = 17.48
Seat 4: t1849 M = 6.85
Seat 5: t3516 M = 13.02
Seat 6: t1261 M = 4.67

3rd Street:
Seat 1: xx xx T
Hero: A 4 K
Seat 3: xx xx 7
Seat 4: xx xx 4
Seat 5: xx xx 6
Seat 6: xx xx 9

Seat 4 brings in for $30, Seat 5 folds, Seat 6 folds, Seat 1 folds, Hero raises, Seat 3 calls, Seat 4 folds

4th Street: (3.5 SB) (2 players)
Hero: A 4 K K
Seat 3: xx xx 7 A

Hero bets, Seat 3 calls

5th Street: (2.75 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 4 K K 2
Seat 3: xx xx 7 A 9

Hero bets, Seat 3 calls

6th Street: (4.75 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 4 K K 2 8
Seat 3: xx xx 7 A 9 9

Hero bets, Seat 3 calls

7th Street: (6.75 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 4 K K 2 8 J
Seat 3: xx xx 7 A 9 9 xx

Hero bets, Seat 3 calls

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Hero shows A 4 K K 2 8 J (HI: a pair of Kings)
Seat 3 shows 7 K 7 A 9 9 K (HI: two pair, Kings and Nines)
Seat 3 wins 8.75 BB
04-18-2009 , 07:31 PM
At least I'm playing on stake right now. Hopefully he still moves me up to 50 and 100nl like we planned.



Where's the EV function on PT3? Using an outside program seems stupid if I dont have to.
04-18-2009 , 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon
At least I'm playing on stake right now. Hopefully he still moves me up to 50 and 100nl like we planned.



Where's the EV function on PT3? Using an outside program seems stupid if I dont have to.
You need beta 26 for the EV graphs. You just find them in the graphs drop down menu
04-18-2009 , 07:50 PM
Meh. It needs the stat box saying ev bb/100 and how far off EV you are. Step in the right direction though.

PS: A4-K isnt a great hand in stud-hi-low
04-18-2009 , 07:57 PM
i agree, definitely needs the box. It's basically kind of guess work as it is at the minute. So im probably just gonna stick with Hold em luck for the time being.
04-18-2009 , 08:04 PM
Just read the release notes. basically this is a test and everything still sucks.

PokerEV is more accurate at the moment too, by the way.

They're looking to add everything I mentioned and more soon though. (plus the accuracy)
04-18-2009 , 08:10 PM
Jus back from the pub had a good night. Not a big Guinness drinker but was told to keep trying it. After tonite i think i may keep drinking. will decide tomorrow if i have a hangover or not lol

edit: if anyone is up for a random/drunk aim chat im on - crazyfoolbenny

also may fall asleep drunk first though lol
04-18-2009 , 08:15 PM
get yourself on stars for some drunk NL2 or some form of mixed game. I'm alread donking my money off playing PLO and 27TD.

As for guinness, all it is is soup in a pint glass. Can't stand the stuff myself
04-18-2009 , 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chachava
get yourself on stars for some drunk NL2 or some form of mixed game. I'm alread donking my money off playing PLO and 27TD.

As for guinness, all it is is soup in a pint glass. Can't stand the stuff myself
that was my opinion until tonite about guinness. but iv taken to it for some weird reason, tired it loads before though. I would go onto a stars table for some drunken play but iv emptied my stars account and only play on FTP now and 2+2 drunken sat night games are always on Stars lol
04-18-2009 , 08:38 PM
My stars account is gonna be emptied the way i'm going. playing 27TD and every single time i get a dcecent low i'm always drawing dead. I hit a 23458 low on the first draw. Obviously someone already had the 23457 low for the nuts. I just got dealt a 23457 low and nobody had anything and got no action......been a really crappy night, lol
04-18-2009 , 08:44 PM
dat kinda sucks chachava lol i hate those kind of nights. As for me im off to sleep lol happy in the knowledge that i havent wasted any money trying to play HU SnG lol like i normally do when drunk. lol probably my cheapest drunken play though. $2 HU SnG. Plenty of action to keep me occupied etc and i am norm tired after them. still $2 saved lol

Am thinking of the FTP double deuce tomorrow. Can enter with 4k points. I suck at donkaments though. Is the play really soft. Any thoughts on playin it?
04-18-2009 , 08:52 PM
Poker Stars $0.50+$0.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t2345 M = 31.27
UTG: t385 M = 5.13
UTG+1: t1625 M = 21.67
MP1: t5509 M = 73.45
MP2: t1578 M = 21.04
Hero (CO): t3405 M = 45.40
BTN: t677 M = 9.03
SB: t6921 M = 92.28

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is CO with 9 6
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t550, Hero calls t550, 4 folds

Flop: (t1225) 6 4 T (2 players)
MP2 bets t1028 all in, Hero calls t1028

Turn: (t3281) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3281) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t3281
MP2 shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
Hero shows 9 6 (a pair of Sixes)
MP2 wins t3281


Multiple mis-clicks after half a bottle of JD....ok admitedly the flop call was more a.....i'm drunk and think your bluffing with AK call. Bt still aclcohol induced lol
04-18-2009 , 10:44 PM
Well, donked off about $12 so will replace that tomorrow....was a laugh and i've kind of realised i'm not sure if i can be bothered to take this seriously at the minute. As much as i love winning a few $'s it just seems like a bit of a waste of time at the minute. Spending 2-3 hours to win a few $'s then losing it in a matter of a few minutes. Anyway, may just be saying this cause im drunk but i'm really struggling to see the point in doing it
04-19-2009 , 01:28 AM
Your posts interest me Chava, theres so much pain that this game gives you yet you enjoy it so much. How about this if you are willing to

a) Take two weeks off

b) deposit 600$ on ftp

I'll teach you to crush 25nl 6max ok?
04-19-2009 , 04:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikealDH
Your posts interest me Chava, theres so much pain that this game gives you yet you enjoy it so much. How about this if you are willing to

a) Take two weeks off

b) deposit 600$ on ftp

I'll teach you to crush 25nl 6max ok?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon
At least I'm playing on stake right now. Hopefully he still moves me up to 50 and 100nl like we planned.

25-6max crushes me, at least this month -_-
04-19-2009 , 11:33 AM
10.5bi downswing today...

the first 10 buyins i dropped i was fine with... AA vs KK set over set type coolers...

but the last .5 bi lost to a half stck just pissed me off something severe.

i 4 bet all in with KK he calls with K5o ... turns a flush... something about it just pissed me off

04-19-2009 , 02:02 PM
You guys probably already know this but just incase, if you signup to poker strategy.com and pass their test, which is absolutely awful btw, you get $50 free. I just noticed today and signed up, free money is fine with me
04-19-2009 , 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
Actually, he's not a beginner, he's an SSNL reg, just sayin'

edit:



Ooops, you beat me to it.

TBH, 3BB/100 is pretty decent, and he's probably a decent player, which is why I find it strange. I think any decent player should have a decent grasp on what is achievable and what is not, and 15ptbb/100 at 50NL is sort of bs. If he can maintain that at 50NL, why would he play 100NL, or even 200NL for 3ptbb/100? Doesn't make sense. I think even for a very very good player, 15ptbb/100 at 50NL is close to impossible, I mean, come on, that's only achievable if your villains never top pair no kicker and would routinely spew in other ways, and even then you have to run good.

So this is not about me thinking he plays bad, I just think it highly unlikely that many players can do it, and if a player can do it, he's probably going to win a LOT more money doing something else than this silly prop bet.

Therefore, imo my side of the bet is for all practical purposes definitely +EV, unless some decided to take it just to take my money at the cost of their own time. So. uhhh. lol?
What kind of odds were you giving him at 15ptbb/100 at 50nl? I would consider doing this.
04-19-2009 , 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo19
You guys probably already know this but just incase, if you signup to poker strategy.com and pass their test, which is absolutely awful btw, you get $50 free. I just noticed today and signed up, free money is fine with me
intellipoker mk. II?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer
What kind of odds were you giving him at 15ptbb/100 at 50nl? I would consider doing this.
not hu
04-19-2009 , 03:30 PM
Jackwilcox plays a lot of HU afaik, I doubt he was planning on doing 6m/fr for 15ptbb/100
04-19-2009 , 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackwilcox
i would be playing all 6max fwiw and probably 8 tabling on full tilt if i were to take this prop bet
^
04-19-2009 , 03:39 PM
I hope he was planning on getting like 15:1 or something then. :O
04-19-2009 , 03:40 PM
Ro was offering 3:1 afaik lololol
04-19-2009 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer
Jackwilcox plays a lot of HU afaik, I doubt he was planning on doing 6m/fr for 15ptbb/100
You think you can get 15pt/100 at hu 50? I've seen a couple graphs of HU players getting 15/100 but I think thats still gonna be very difficult.

      
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