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It isn't a bot, and they aren't cheating It isn't a bot, and they aren't cheating

12-07-2022 , 04:58 PM
The most common discussions I see in table chat and certain forums involve cheating allegations:
  • The site is rigged
  • The winning player is bot
  • The player who called with a bad hand is colluding

etc.

One of the best things you can do for your game is to correct this mental bug. In this thread, I want to show why the allegations are usually wrong and offer some insight into how to move forward.

First, consider the fact that people usually make the accusation when something unusual happens . This is understandable, but should be tempered by the knowledge that unusual things happen in poker all the time. Bad beats and bad plays are integral parts of the game. Imagine a world where the best hand always wins. The game would easily be dominated by the best players in the world, the bad players would go broke and leave, and poker would be finished. Your opponents are going to play 83o and sometimes win. They are going to shove T9s into your aces and sometimes win. Embrace these as part of the game. Be thankful for them, because they are what keeps the fun, low-skill players coming back.

Second, remember everyone overestimates their own skill. This is especially true at the early stages of a poker career. When our knowledge is limited and we don't even know what we don't know, we tend to think that we have mastered a significant portion of the game. When things don't go our way, we fall into the trap of blaming others. "I shouldn't be losing consistently, so the site must be rigged against me." "I made the right decision here, so my opponent had to cheat to win the hand." You and I haven't reached the peak yet so there is more to learn. Some of what we learn may reveal our own weaknesses.

Third, remember that your memory is faulty and biased. Do you always lose with aces? Our memory capacity isn't unlimited, so we tend to store the things that stand out. When I get pocket aces, I expect to win. When everything goes according to plan, my brain usually doesn't store that memory because it isn't relevant or useful for the future; the expected thing happened. However, when those aces get cracked, my expectation is ripped away. I form a memory because the event is shocking and painful. My brain is desperately trying to make sense of my new, disturbed reality.

To improve your poker life, embrace the fact that people will play in wildly unconventional ways. They may be new, or tilted, or drunk, or a thrill seeker. They may have misclicked, or they may live for the moments when they beat good players with insane holdings. The reason doesn't matter because you will succeed in the long run with consistent, mathematically-sound play. Let them have their fun; even consider celebrating with them because you are likely to benefit when they do it again. Show them that you expect them to win sometimes because you will be happier. Your happiness will translate into enthusiasm for the game and will lead to better profit in the future.

Last edited by AmiableFool; 12-07-2022 at 05:04 PM.
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12-08-2022 , 11:15 AM
What you describe is not limited to poker, but is a general phenomenon in many fields. It is called the Dunning-Krueger effect. It was named after two psychologists who did a study where they asked subjects to self-rate how confident they were that they performed well on an objective test of some sort and compared those self ratings to the actual objective results. They found unsurprisingly that those people who did very well tended to rate themselves highly, but so did subjects who performed very poorly. Subjects who had closer to average scores tended to rate themselves the lowest.

Dunning-Krueger is undoubtedly one of a serious poker player’s best friends. It keeps the truly bad players coming back for more. They could not possibly be losing because they are bad. They are expert players - just ask them. They must be insanely unlucky or.you must just be a lucky fish. No way you could beat someone as good as they are.

I had a recent experience with a D-K player in an online tournament. I was dealt a mid pair on the button, I think it was 77. A player in early position (I think UTG+1) raised to 3bb and all folded to me. (Early stages about 70 bb effective). I call and the blinds fold. Flop comes Q73r and he makes a c bet about pot size, I raise and he shoves. Obviously I call and he flips AA. My set holds and I cripple him (he had me covered by about 1.5 bb). He starts berating me for calling! I told him “I flipped a set, why would I fold?” He said “no, you should have folded pre”! I tried to explain to him about set mining and implied odds, but it just did not get through to him. I also asked him why he would want me to fold 77 when he had AA, but he could not see past the whole “I lost with AA so my opponent must have screwed up” line of thought.

Last edited by stremba70; 12-08-2022 at 11:25 AM.
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12-09-2022 , 09:26 PM
@strema There are very many ignorant people in this world. And just as many people who can't own that they suck or can't own that its their mistake.
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12-10-2022 , 10:34 AM
There are cheaters.

I doubt they play micro stakes, where this chat is most common.
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12-31-2022 , 08:09 PM
nice post sir
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