Button ($13.64)
Hero (SB) ($7.03)
BB ($13.03)
UTG ($15.70)
MP ($16.59)
CO ($10.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 6, J, J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.52, Hero calls $0.52

Turn: ($2.84) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($2.84) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.71, BB raises to $11.61 (All-In), Hero calls $2.90 (All-In)

Total pot: $14.06 | Rake: $0.63



I thought it was a little strong to 4 bet pre-flop BUT if I had done that he may have shoved and I could have folded.

Should I have check raised the flop to try make him fold? The problem here is, the solver suggests out of the 58 hands in his pre-flop 3 betting range only 2 have me beat (QQ, QJ) so I wanted him to carry on.

When he checks the turn I read it as weakness and his holding was something along the lines of 10/10 or 9/9.

I know that my river bet was maybe too high and when he shoved... I considered nothing, I blindly called. I don't know, it happened a bit too quickly.

I guess I am trying to work out if this situation is just a time where I will always get stacked or if I'm missing something that should have made me more cautious.

don't post results

pre fine

i don't know why we are not raising the flop here. there's basically very little part of villain's range that warrants a slowplay here. an enormous chunk of it, even if they do improve, never pays off another bet given the board. hence if you checkraise and he folds, you're missing out on a boatload of value when he has KJ/QJ etc

Thank you. My thought was not to bet the flop and check to the aggressor... But I understand your reasoning.

I will not post results in future... Why do we not post results?

Results bias the answers. Stop at the decision point you are questioning.

Yes that's what I thought. Then I thought, why would I want poker advice off someone who is influenced by seeing the hand results? The whole point of a good strategy is to be indifferent about individual outcome PLUS I'm asking about a full hand and getting stacked. If I'm asking about getting stacked... The results are obvious he he.

But then of course, how do I know who is influenced by seeing results and who is not? So we don't show results.

Sorry, I'm not being pedantic. In future I will follow the rules for my own benefit. I just like to discuss things in depth.

So I'm getting stacked in this situation no matter what I guess?

Most of us have been here for a decade or more.

Posting results WILL skew the answers you receive.

Your thread title is (of course) not helpful either.

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I ask you a math question. How often must you win to make this call of $8.90 to win $17.16 ?


((((YIKES...didn't see you were short Call $3.50 to win ______how much?)))))

So I had to put 2.90 in to win 11.16 so if I'm winning about 20% of the time I'm showing profit?

That's not what I suggested at all. I asked why you weren't raising. Checking to let the guy continue the action from pre is fine. From there, it's about how much more action you will get from differing parts of villain's range. If you've got a read that villain is going to barrel again on a lot of turns then sure, whatever, but KJ/QJ probably isn't shying away from a checkraise, overpairs may well stick around for at least one more bet. Anything else, think why we want to play it slow, it is generally:

a) we have very close to the nuts that's going to be hard to beat on future streets - it's close enough here, but our hand certainly isn't invincible
b) we think doing so will keep our opponent in the pot in spots where they might improve to a worse hand *and* pay us off. If we keep AK about and the turn is a king, are they suddenly going to stack off? If we keep 88 about, who gets stacked if he improves?
c) it's tough for villain to have a hand that will get involved with us right now - there's plenty of villain's range that will have the case jack, if he has 66 then rip but at least we have outs, maybe overpairs get overly excited

Keep it simple.

You are out of position, you have the nuts, you do not want him to check the turn, you want to make money. Raise his small bet on the flop and get it in.