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I wish I called instead of semi-bluffing with this hand against a calling station I wish I called instead of semi-bluffing with this hand against a calling station

03-04-2022 , 09:10 AM
The game was last night. I was playing 1/3 NL at a local poker room.

Hero(Small Blind): 67♥️SB around 100 bb
Villain(Big Blind): 89o BB Deep stack (around 250-350 bb), calling station, just won a lot of lucky big pots. Had around 60-85 BB but quadrupled his chips within the last 45 mins
UTG: deep stack as well(300-400BB), tight and Regular

SB raise to $15 BB Calls UTG calls
Flop comes 8♠️ 5♣️ 3♥️
SB bets $20 BB raise to 60$ UTG fold
I chose to All-in. BB called
Turn comes: A♦️
River comes: 7 ♣️
He beat me with the 8 pairs

Was I wrong on the c-bet or the all-in 3 bet? I had the outside straight draw and back door flush draw. SB called me with a top pair low kicker and inside back door straight draw and no flush possibilities at all. I got confused and doubted myself for a good 10 mins lol
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03-04-2022 , 09:11 AM
I was even trying to run this game on some softwares but almost all of them require membership for post-flop reports so I had to jump on here and looked for some answers
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03-04-2022 , 02:16 PM
Moved thread from BBV to BQ.
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03-04-2022 , 09:46 PM
Okay! Thank you
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03-05-2022 , 11:22 AM
Depends on the villain. Did you expect him to fold to your all-in? ItÂ’s a fairly dry board and you have all the blockers on the straight draw. With UTG still to act his raise indicates some type of made hand, there really isnÂ’t any bluffs here. As you say, theyÂ’re a calling station not a raising station. YouÂ’ve switched between BBs and $ so itÂ’s hard to work out what odds BB was getting on calling your shove.

Personally, I think the error came pre-flop. Again it’s hard to tell with the info but it appears here that the tight UTG limped and then called your raise. You’ve raised to play 76s OOP which isn’t ideal. You see a lot of “fold pre” suggestions which aren’t necessary true as many play too tight but I think here limp or fold was the best play. You’ve got a calling station in BB so highly unpredictable and unlikely to move off of the pot and a tight UTG who limped. With a calling station to your left you should be looking extract maximum value from your premium hands.

As I say just my opinion. Others may disagree.
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03-05-2022 , 12:48 PM
Calling Stations don't raise without a 'made' hand .. If truly a CS, then you flat the Flop raise and deal with Turn and River since you know you are behind. If truly a CS, then you actually 'have position' on him since you can lead out and then he can CS you.

I'm more inclined to say this guy is a maniac/LAG more than a passive CS since he's giving you zero credit for an over-pair. In that case you should flat the Flop and not bet out even if you improve, thus giving him the leash he loves to have when action is on him .. betting!

Knowing your image with an opponent is important, but there are some opponents who only know 'what's good' for them and don't really care about your holding too much.

4x-ing a stack in 45 minutes is pretty easy in most 1/3 games for a maniac, but it can/should go the other way just as quickly.

From a stack size .. If you call the $60 you still have some stack behind you (225 stack, 135 pot) to play with and you could get a free River by flatting the Flop raise should this guy have air. AP the Ace would've been a perfect bluff card for you, but he probably still calls it off whether CS or maniac. In this case any Broadway card on the Turn should've created a check/check spot and then deal with a free River.

Did you overplay your hand? Definitely IMO, had you held the flush to back up your OESD then perhaps we can shove here crossing our fingers for some fold equity or just living with our draw. But for the most part, you are never ahead in this spot and typically wont generate enough folds to make up for when you miss your draw. GL
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03-06-2022 , 07:49 PM
I did a fairly complete EV analysis of this hand. Here is the man conclusion:

Hero’s all-in re-raise to $265 on the flop was a poor decision against a calling station. The calling station would have to fold at least 35% of the time to assure +EV.

Calling villain’s $60 flop raise is a -EV decision. However, an implied odds analysis shows that if hero hits a straight on the turn, with an estimated villain call probability of 85% and an estimate of a 90% hero win probability with hitting the straight. a bet of at least $125 makes the flop call profitable assuming hero folds the turn if he doesn't hit.
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