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I feel like I am stunting my growth by playing Double Or Nothings I feel like I am stunting my growth by playing Double Or Nothings

07-26-2009 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Csaba
Fold
So some situations in dons warrant the folding of better hands because of your standing? I kinda knew something along those lines, but i have a lot to learn about stts lol. See im a cash game player..I would have said 'SHOVE!"
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07-26-2009 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanity
So some situations in dons warrant the folding of better hands because of your standing? I kinda knew something along those lines, but i have a lot to learn about stts lol. See im a cash game player..I would have said 'SHOVE!"
Yes, even if the other guy is shoving ATC, you have a 15% chance of losing the hand and ruining your chances whereas if you were to simply fold every hand, it is extremely likely that one of the ultra short-stacks would lose pretty quickly.
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07-26-2009 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JRteddy
Yes, even if the other guy is shoving ATC, you have a 15% chance of losing the hand and ruining your chances whereas if you were to simply fold every hand, it is extremely likely that one of the ultra short-stacks would lose pretty quickly.
This would do my head in so much that I would have to shoot a kitten in the head after I folded AA here!
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07-26-2009 , 05:03 PM
I never really understand this 'DoN's stunt your growth' argument. The whole point of poker is to make money. If these are what you're good at, then keep playing them and move up. I can only speak for up to the 20's, but there are tons of fish in DoNs. And it makes perfect sense why. The payout structure sounds very intruguing to beginners. If you're beating these games, just keep adding tables and/or move up. I guess it all depends what your goals are as a poker player are. But in my opinion if you're making money and wish to master a single form of poker, then who cares if it stunts your HU 5 card draw freezout turbo game
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07-26-2009 , 05:42 PM
Well, if there was potentially more to be made playing HU 5 card draw freezout turbos then I would be concerned if DoNs were stunting my ability to play them. Also, knowing the DoNs may not be fishy forever, it would be nice if we had skills to transfer to other games if the DoN profits dried up.

Sure, if you are happy with the profits from DoNs then that is fine but there is more to be made in basically any other format of NLHE especially cash games or HUSNG and playing DoNs is not really going to help your game in either of those.
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07-26-2009 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JRteddy
Also, knowing the DoNs may not be fishy forever, it would be nice if we had skills to transfer to other games if the DoN profits dried up.
This just in:

Spoiler:
they already have.
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07-26-2009 , 09:02 PM
Yes guys the DoNs have gotten a lot tougher.
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07-26-2009 , 10:04 PM
Well I don't see why you should try doing something else if you make 100$ a day playing DoN's. I mean it's not like playing 6 months of cash will get you to play with Phil Ivey unless you're a REALLY skilled.

And cash games get pretty tougher day after day with all those training sites like SP, CR and all the books. Don't think you'll crush 200NL+ that easily.
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07-26-2009 , 10:58 PM
Playing poker is about getting good at the game, enjoying the strategy and winning money as a result.

Playing DONs may indeed be profitable but it's formulaic poker and getting good at it is so mechanical that it's ABC poker at its worst.

Playing cash games will help you understand the game better and help you develop beyond Holdem. The real issue is not to worry about the small limits. If you think that it's only a matter of a few cents per blind then you'll never really flourish. At the end of a session ask yourself how many Buy Ins you won or how many BBs you're up. Don't think of it as cash or you'll end up thinking..."all that fuss for a $1.20!"

Once you're regularly winning BBs at a low limit move up and count your BB/100 success there and so on until you're struggling to succeed and then you'll need to work at your game and that's when you know you're at a proper level...it's time to think and improve.

DONs are bubblegum poker...there's more to the game than that.
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07-29-2009 , 02:01 AM
anyone else can give insight?
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07-29-2009 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dynacraze
anyone else can give insight?
I really think that you need to look at your own personal goals here. Is it to make money or is it to improve? If you move away from DONs, you have a much higher chance of improving but you're profit is probably going to go down at least at first.
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08-01-2009 , 03:18 PM
anyone else?
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08-01-2009 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dynacraze
anyone else?
again are your goals to get better or to make money?
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08-02-2009 , 01:46 AM
its both. But more to get better.
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08-02-2009 , 02:07 AM
I used to think sngs were a worse option then cash games, but then I saw the Buku87 thread where he turned 100 into 10K in 15 days playing sngs, with a max buyin of 16 dollars.

You don't need to play a high stakes, you can grind the micro or small stake games and make good money. There is nothing wrong with DoNs, if you like them don't worry about 'stunting your growth'.
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08-02-2009 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mfc
To be honest I don't know how people grind these things. They are extremely tilting.
When I first deposited on Stars I played the micro DON's because I figured that it'd be a safe way to unlock the deposit bonus. It was relatively safe (I was a little below break even) but it was soooo tilting and I didn't learn anything about playing some real poker.
This. I was trying to explain to a backer the other day why I will never grind DoN's, I'd rather stack shelves for a living!

Last edited by -FishnCips-; 08-02-2009 at 02:46 AM.
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08-02-2009 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dynacraze
anyone else can give insight?
What insight are you looking for here? Loads of people have tried to help you, and it seems like you're not listening. What are you hoping for? A guy with a PhD in psychiatry to come and tell you you have X syndrome and you need to take Y pills and you will suddenly be an amazingly profitable NL50 player with no fear? Listen the the sound advice people have given you imo.

Your answers are in this thread, repeatedly. If you're asking for coaching for NL50, go to the marketplace.

But maybe you were just waiting for someone to tell you it's fine to stick with DoN's, it's a great form of poker, it doesn't stunt your growth and you're not a "fraud" or a "bad player" if you only play those...

Last edited by -FishnCips-; 08-02-2009 at 02:44 AM.
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08-02-2009 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rafdogg2000
then who cares if it stunts your HU 5 card draw freezout turbo game
Sir, take that back this damn minute.
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