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10-27-2008 , 05:50 PM

thedoctor

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 530

I folded tho! wait for a better spot and all that.

Villain was running at 21/0/1.0, me at 14/4/- after 28 hands (not sure how much stock to put in results tracked on MTTs on PT - ?? Maybe another thread)

I guess I want to know what my odds actually are here given villains possible holdings.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.50+$0.25 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t2960)
UTG+1 (t5260)
MP1 (t520)
Hero (MP2) (t1885)
CO (t3455)
Button (t4085)
SB (t1175)
BB (t4105)

Hero's M: 25.13

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

, J

3 folds, Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, SB calls t125, BB calls t100

Flop: (t450) 8

, 9

, 2

(3 players)
SB bets t1025 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds

Total pot: t450

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10-27-2008 , 05:57 PM

ChrisV

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 40,336

Instacall. In the very unlikely event he has a set or aces you don't have odds but aren't in particularly bad shape. If he has something like kings you're slightly less than even money and easily have odds. Plus he can have hands like JT, KQss, etc etc.

Also 28 hands is not enough to judge VPIP and PFR accurately, much less AF.

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10-27-2008 , 06:15 PM

CBorders

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16,500

Folding sucks. You have a ton of equity here especially since its a $2 donkaments and people will show up with far less than sets, two pair, etc. Get it in and feel good.

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10-27-2008 , 06:31 PM

thedoctor

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 530

dammi that sucks my instinct told me to call but I've been trying to work on that part of my game.

I've been calling river shoves etc with a good pre-flop/ flop hand but its no good to a calling donk by the river, yet I've been tilt-calling.

Thats why I folded, dammit its hard to get it right!

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10-27-2008 , 06:38 PM

thedoctor

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 530

Exactly the kind of hand I've been struggling with:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) (t2430)
UTG+1 (t2385)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1695)
MP3 (t1355)
CO (t1410)
Button (t1900)
SB (t950)
BB (t2985)

Hero's M: 32.40

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, A

Hero raises to t150, 5 folds, Button calls t150, 2 folds

Flop: (t375) J

, Q

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets t250, Button calls t250

Turn: (t875) 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t150, Hero calls t150

River: (t1175) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t100, Hero calls t100

Total pot: t1375

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10-27-2008 , 07:09 PM

BlindedOut

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 386

Lettme guess! He got there?

I hope you see where you went wrong. (Even if your ONE pr held up, (which I doubt) that was a pretty bad play doc.)

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10-27-2008 , 07:27 PM

Cruzerthebruzer

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,622

Your avatar tilts me so hard Blinded.

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10-27-2008 , 08:12 PM

thedoctor

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 530

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlindedOut

Lettme guess! He got there?

I hope you see where you went wrong. (Even if your ONE pr held up, (which I doubt) that was a pretty bad play doc.)

You know what? I really wish I did. But I don't. After beating my pub game for a year i thought i'd do well online but i'm beginning to realise I really dont even know the basics...

So, even if it is obv, what should i have done?

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10-27-2008 , 08:15 PM

Lego05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thedoctor

, A

Hero raises to t150, 5 folds, Button calls t150, 2 folds

Flop: (t375) J

, Q

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets t250, Button calls t250

Turn: (t875) 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t150, Hero calls t150

River: (t1175) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t100, Hero calls t100

Total pot: t1375

Bet more on the flop. 300 or so.

Bet the turn hard and get it in.

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10-27-2008 , 08:25 PM

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thedoctor

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 530

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lego05

Bet more on the flop. 300 or so.

Bet the turn hard and get it in.

ty.

after thinking about it i realise this is an obvious, basic play. but i'm still struggling to get these basic plays.

ah well, keep playing, keep learning. beginning to realise its a process that may take a long time to get to be a winning player...

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10-27-2008 , 08:54 PM

#11

bluehand

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7

yeah, good advice

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10-27-2008 , 09:06 PM

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ugabooga

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 37

Definitely bet turn for AA hand.

AJ is call although i've been known to lay it down, depends on what stage tourney is at and how high stakes are.

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10-27-2008 , 11:15 PM

#13

Montreal Casino

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 528

I call it off there with AJ.

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