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How lucky was this bluff, what would you put him on ? How lucky was this bluff, what would you put him on ?

10-25-2009 , 01:01 AM
Poker Stars $6.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 338269
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BB: t1720 M = 57.33
Hero (BTN/SB): t1280 M = 42.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J K
Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t240) 4 T 7 (2 players)
BB bets t120, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t480) 6 (2 players)
BB bets t200, Hero raises to t600, BB folds
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10-25-2009 , 01:04 AM
Absolutely terrible play by me, and i realise i should have let the hand go at his raise pf
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10-25-2009 , 01:08 AM
Without any specific reads you can't just bluff people like that at random, I think you got lucky this time.

For one thing, you need to raise more preflop, about 3x or 4x the size of the blinds.
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10-25-2009 , 01:14 AM
Out of curiosity.. why are you playing a $6 sit n go?
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10-25-2009 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Out of curiosity.. why are you playing a $6 sit n go?
Lol i knew u would see this buddy. What you doing up this late as well? its 5 am here. I was just having a ponder . Btw Wolf, i'm going to build my roll from HU. Been running extremely good at them today. Going to stop after i win this one and my roll will be sitting back at $50 then tomorrow i go back down and be serious. Went on tilt earlier and got back from $8 to $50 in about 2 hours HU won every single one... so far and one shootout. But yes it's scared me DISCIPLINE FTW
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10-25-2009 , 01:40 AM
I believe what ice means is that if you are playing $6 sngs on your be then you are not bring disciplined and you have a very good chance of going busto again.
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10-25-2009 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OziBattler
I believe what ice means is that if you are playing $6 sngs on your be then you are not bring disciplined and you have a very good chance of going busto again.
Yes, i was pretty much busto earlier already so i just took a little risk. Now i'm going to bed. Wake up tomorro and grind some lower level sngs.. i think. Build br to $70 then i'm rdy to try 3.40 sngs 6 man.
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10-25-2009 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tigerwoofs
Yes, i was pretty much busto earlier already so i just took a little risk. Now i'm going to bed. Wake up tomorro and grind some lower level sngs.. i think. Build br to $70 then i'm rdy to try 3.40 sngs 6 man.
A little risk when your bankroll is tiny is what will usually get you to busto. These are the types of things I'm trying to help you with when we chat on msn.. I know it can be a hell of a grind, but you really have a ton to learn about playing and discipline... and that's what these micro games will teach you.
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10-25-2009 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
A little risk when your bankroll is tiny is what will usually get you to busto. These are the types of things I'm trying to help you with when we chat on msn.. I know it can be a hell of a grind, but you really have a ton to learn about playing and discipline... and that's what these micro games will teach you.
Ye i get u. At least i have started to post some of my hands to begin "learning" properly instead of wingeing
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10-25-2009 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
A little risk when your bankroll is tiny is what will usually get you to busto. These are the types of things I'm trying to help you with when we chat on msn.. I know it can be a hell of a grind, but you really have a ton to learn about playing and discipline... and that's what these micro games will teach you.
the one reason i havent moved up to 5nl yet, is because of bad BR management.

simple.

i dont think u shud be folding KJo pre HU. ever tbh. although 3-betting is better imo. It wasnt really a lucky bluff either, they probably had A3 or something
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10-25-2009 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
A little risk when your bankroll is tiny is what will usually get you to busto.
Agreed but do you know what his "real" BR is? my guess is it was not down to the $8 he implied.
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10-25-2009 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rek
Agreed but do you know what his "real" BR is? my guess is it was not down to the $8 he implied.
Pretty much.. from what he tells me anyway.. it was. I don't want to give away any personal type details that he's given me... but the impression I was given was that depositing more isn't much of an option.
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10-25-2009 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Pretty much.. from what he tells me anyway.. it was. I don't want to give away any personal type details that he's given me... but the impression I was given was that depositing more isn't much of an option.
Yeah you can only go by what they tell you but if he is playing so recklessly and outside his so called BR then I am 99.9999% certain he would have re-deposited had he lost his online $8.

If you are advising him on his play and BRM then good luck to you if this thread is a guideline to his attitude. Also you need him to be truthful on his BR - $8 probably means nothing to him and so his attitude to the "BR" is not careful enough. If I remember rightly from previous threads the OP is a student at Bristol University and while I understand students are not flush with money they will spend £5 without a second's thought on a Saturday night drinking session. All players need to be truthful about their proper BR in order for proper discipline to be instilled into their play. Take my word for it - $8 was not his real BR.
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10-25-2009 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rek
Yeah you can only go by what they tell you but if he is playing so recklessly and outside his so called BR then I am 99.9999% certain he would have re-deposited had he lost his online $8.

If you are advising him on his play and BRM then good luck to you if this thread is a guideline to his attitude. Also you need him to be truthful on his BR - $8 probably means nothing to him and so his attitude to the "BR" is not careful enough. If I remember rightly from previous threads the OP is a student at Bristol University and while I understand students are not flush with money they will spend £5 without a second's thought on a Saturday night drinking session. All players need to be truthful about their proper BR in order for proper discipline to be instilled into their play. Take my word for it - $8 was not his real BR.
Again, without getting into too much detail.. he had told me before that he might be able to deposit a bit more..but for parental reasons...the money for gambling was very limited... but I do get your point.
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10-25-2009 , 03:22 AM
hand is ok if you're willing to shove blank rivers
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10-25-2009 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smaug
hand is ok if you're willing to shove blank rivers
do u reckon villain has a f/d more of the time, rather than leading the turn with Ax or middle pair in the whole?

I think u get called on the river more here, if its a blank.
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10-25-2009 , 03:50 AM
I didn't pay attention to the stack but as for the hand reading thingy.

his most likely hand on the turn is a draw/weak pair/pair and straight draw - hes not going to fold turn often - but hes not strong enough to call a river shove if stacks were a little deeper.
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