You probably don't want to be x/r AK here. You want to bluff this board so often that you should probably just cbet all your value just to make sure you can't get raised off your bluffs easily.

i think the best ratio is 33 vpip and 15 pfr.

too high or too low indicating a fish stats

33/15 is loose fish lol.

Are you saying I should not check raise? Instead just bet so that it looks like all my other bluffing C bets? Play a more uniform style?

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 152.5 BB
UTG+1: 177 BB
MP: 149 BB
MP+1: 100 BB
MP+2: 109 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 98.5 BB
Hero (SB): 81 BB
BB: 184.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) J 8 T
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold

Turn: (10 BB, 3 players) 8
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

River: (10 BB, 3 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets 7.5 BB, BTN raises to 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB, fold

BTN shows 2 9 (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 29%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks J T (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 66%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins 55 BB

OTF and OTT eh, it's okay

OTR it's definitely a fold 100%

As I said above, there are no draws on this board. A x- raise only gets called by good hands. You want bad to marginal hands continuing here. Xr folds out the hands you want calling.

Well, think about what you just said, do you think it's difficult to play against someone who check raises good hands and bets bad hands?

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Its not nearly ok on flop and turn - raise flop / bet turn big!

Yeah it's probably better to raise, but that's not the main issue of the hand IMO and I don't utterly hate those lines (besides the call OTR)

Ok, so don't check/raise when I have nuts.
When is a situation you should check/raise, in general?
In reverse, if someone check/raises me, he is probably bluffing and I should call? B/c if he had the nuts, he would only call.

If i bet, everyone would have folded.

Who cares about what people would have done this time, just play good poker and don't give a **** how they react this one time

No, you can absolutely check raise with the nuts, but if you play every single bluff the polar opposite of how you play every single good hand, regs will eventually catch up with stats, notes, etc. and they will destroy you.
You're trying to oversimplify it and it sadly can't be oversimplified like that

Do was my check raise bad? He folded. I skipped have called for max value?

Legion, if you are still wondering about only getting called by better hands, I'm reading Jonathan Little - Mastering Small Stakes No Limit Holdem. He has a section about this very thing.

You raise pre with QJ, get HU, and flop AQ5. If you bet, what would anyone call with that you can beat? In Little's analysis of the Villain's range, you have about 48% equity when you bet and get called. Turn it around and ask yourself what hands you would call from OOP where you are not the preflop aggro? Any Ace? KQ? 55?

But if you check, V stay's active with a range where you are 70+% fave and you might pick up a few BBs along the way while limiting your loss if that is how it runs.

You can get called with Q2oQT, I'd assume.
But, general rule of thumb seems to be "check if you have 2nd pair"
With hero = QJ and on flop of AQ5, the Ace will always call, and you lose.
Also, bet bigger if it's a draw board. Flop = 29Q, then bet 3/4 pot, not just 1/2.

The problem I have is fold equity.
With flop of AQ5, there is a good chance V does not have A.
So, by checking/folding your Q, you almost guarantee the V will take the pot.
I will C-bet flop with a Q, but if he calls, then I stop betting, and let V have the pot.

As PFR we should definitely be cbetting qj on AQ5 a large percentage. Especially if we opened in EP. Huge range advantage, and there are plenty of combos v will call we are ahead of. All 16 j10s, weaker Q's/ lots of sticky V's will call with PP. Added benefit of getting value from FD's and pair + backdoor draws

If you c-bet with a marginal hand like second pair, midling kicker, what do you check with? Only complete trash and super-premiums? You'll invite everyone to bet into your checks every time. Yes, you'll snap off an occasional win with your flopped set, but you're going to lose more than you win because you have so few bluff catchers, assuming you also lead out with good but not great hands like TPTK, over pairs, toopers, etc.

The hands you're listing as possible calls are definitely in V's range. Do you understand range and equity? I don't think I'm qualified to explain it, and won't do it sufficiently that you can walk away fully informed. But yes, V's range does have some calling hands, but JLiitle rates V's calling range as giving you 48% equity. You will win some of those hands you bet. Against a nit, you might win more of them. But you're going to lose more in the long run than you win.

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I agree there was stupidly here but not where you think. PF standard - you open he 3 bets. You donk bet the flop. Did you really think with two overcards that you’re ahead of his range? JJ probably 3 bets, but very few other hands in his 3 bet range are behind you. He calls the donk bet, so JJ is much less likely.

From his point of view, QQ and AQ certainly are in your range. His AK is certainly too strong to fold and he’s got the range advantage so he’s certainly continuing. Raising probably is EV for him, but if he’s seen you stack off the way you did here in other hands I think the flat is fine.

Once he flats the flop, that only confirms his range advantage. He gains the nut advantage with the turn card. You keep betting; he has no reason to raise now - if he calls you’ll either bet the river or, since he’s got position he can value bet if you check. Of course you completely justify his line by stacking off on the river.

Think about the extremes of the "only get called by better hands" theorem:

Your opponents only call with the nuts.

Your opponents call 100%

Your opponents raise 100%

Now how would you adjust from your baseline strategy vs these players?

I would bet 100% vs the first on the flop or turn as the first postflop bettor almost always.* I would bet vs the second more selectively than my baseline strategy. I would only bet hands that could stack off vs third opponent.

* the river is different. You need 50% equity or more vs opponents that raise often to value bet the river.

If we take the above concept and apply it to what happens in value/protection ranges when good players face off, we see metering effects on our various ev sources due to the tendencies. (high or low fold frequency. High or low raise frequency. High or low call frequency.)

These deviations result in ev transfer from the opponents stack to our stack.

Now if youre facing an opponent that carries a normal preflop range, but has a very tight range that continues vs a bet, you can bet very often on the flop or turn as the first postflop aggressor, unless they have a high raise frequency(remember the metering effect).

If you bet the flop vs such an opponent and get called, you should be very selective on the turn with both weaker value hands and weaker draws.

Thats my long winded way of showing why I think "only get called by better hands" is a fallacy on the flop and turn, but an axiom on the river.

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Not windows program, not mobile app.