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11-18-2009 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by owtuw
The one thing I've taken to heart is that if you are getting bad beat, it means that you are playing good poker (for the most part). I mean, yeah, getting bad beat sucks and if its happening frequently then you are playing bad, but I figure the occasional bad beat actually encourages me knowing that I played it right and the guy won due to plain old luck.

Why can't you PM me Systolic?
When you get your money in ahead and lose, forget about it. You will be on the winning end one day too.

It gives me an error saying that you cant recieve PMs or you have chosen to disable them.
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11-18-2009 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by owtuw
Systloic, assume he bet a small 3-4bet, and I called.
Well if you are calling a 3 or especially a 4 bet with QJ, you should be reevaluating your starting standards. This hand should have never happened in the first place.

I can see POSSIBLY making the 3 bet in late position with QJ suited, but not calling a 3 bet unless you have a really specific read on your opponent.
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11-18-2009 , 06:25 PM
Yeah, the hypothetical situation was a bad one because I wouldn't have called with QJ in the first place. I was just trying to make up a situation in which a guy keeps calling c-bets in order to hit his draw on river and does. Should I just fold? Make a value bet and fold if he raises?

In terms of the blog, check back on this thread either tomorrow or Friday and I'll post the blog url here.
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11-18-2009 , 06:26 PM
With that in mind, if you call a 3 bet and you are checked around to on that board, I cant help but put your preflop-aggressor villain on a range like AJ, AK, maybe a middle pocket pair like JJ, TT, or maybe he plays suited connectors aggressively, but regardless he is representing that this flop missed him completely. Now you said one person calls one person folds... Did the Preflop raiser fold? Did the caller fold? I need more info.

EDIT - Im sure youre beginning to see that poker is a game of information. To be a good player you have to be a critical thinker, able to take bits of information and piece them together to draw conclusions, so the more info, the better.
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11-18-2009 , 06:32 PM
The thing is, I'm not a complete newbie. Even before I deposited those $80 dollars, I read up a lot on poker before I started. I would say the reason why I played so badly before was due to impatience (Playing only decent hands in early position), playing .25/.50 blinds and only buy in with $20 dollars (had no idea about bankroll management/max buy-in advantage), and it didn't help that I was slightly drunk when I lost the majority of my $80. Oh, and playing SNG's/MTT's for fun (which never works out), and always placing close to pay-off but not making it. Edit: Now that I think about it, I almost always profited whenever I played cash-games even with short stack. This is probably where most of my confidence comes from. That and I read a lot of poker articles and have poker literature lined up, and have watched way too much poker on TV lately (analytically).

But I can already tell my game will be better starting out with this fresh $100 deposit. The initial deposit was just me testing the waters before I actually started playing seriously.
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11-18-2009 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by owtuw
The thing is, I'm not a complete newbie. Even before I deposited those $80 dollars, I read up a lot on poker before I started. I would say the reason why I played so badly before was due to impatience (Playing only decent hands in early position), playing .25/.50 blinds and only buy in with $20 dollars (had no idea about bankroll management/max buy-in advantage), and it didn't help that I was slightly drunk when I lost the majority of my $80. Oh, and playing SNG's/MTT's for fun (which never works out), and always placing close to pay-off but not making it. Edit: Now that I think about it, I almost always profited whenever I played cash-games even with short stack. This is probably where most of my confidence comes from. That and I read a lot of poker articles and have poker literature lined up, and have watched way too much poker on TV lately (analytically).

But I can already tell my game will be better starting out with this fresh $100 deposit. The initial deposit was just me testing the waters before I actually started playing seriously.
To be honest, I have been playing a good long time, and I have been studious in regards to learning concepts, but my bankroll never grew. Its only been relatively recently that I decided to use proper bankroll management. That one facet of my game has helped more than anything. I followed in the same footsteps as lots of other beginners... Buy in for 100, play some cash and Sngs above my roll, get to 200, take a shot at a higher stakes game, and busto. I got sick of it after 3 years of it, and I've been grinding properly for about 3 months now, and my results are much better, my game has improved dramatically, and I feel much more confident in my abilities as a player.

So my "inspirational comment" to you is - Do things the right way, save your wallet and your sanity. You're not that one special guy who is going to donk his way to a million bucks in a day. Your chances of that are as good as winning the lottery, and the whole goal of playing good poker is to take OUT the lottery element.
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11-18-2009 , 06:56 PM
I'm glad I found out about grinding and bankroll management after only losing $80.

I'll be starting Friday or so, you'll see me rollin in a mil by 2 years (callin it)
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