Had a hand the other night was played kind of weird... Im gonna post it let me know what you think.
sb was a reg, pretty aggressive in alot of spots I saw him play.
Eff. stacks were me about 160bb, sb had me covered maybe 350 bb.
I was UTG but straddled to $4 at 1/2 no limit live. Several calls, then sb makes it $25, BB calls, I look down at JJ and just flat the 25, mp1 calls and I believe mp2 calls.
Flop comes 965 I think all diff suits, he leads out for $55, bb folds, I reraise to $175. Mp1 goes all in for less about $125, mp2 folds sb tanks for about 10 minutes then someone calls clock and floor counts down he finally folds.
Hand played out mp1 flopped top set with 99, board ran out j 3.

As you read I won the hand but it was kind of played odd as the Reg at this casino then said he had KK( which I dont think he did, I dont think he was ever going to call he just was blowing smoke by counting out chips and then finally folding.
My thoughts were never considering the mp1 of coming all in, I figured it was a standard cbet by the sb I would reraise mp1 fold, then he would fold in the sb.
What are your thoughts on the hand, would you have raised pre, just called the flop or what should I have done differently to maximize value or minimize losses?
Jordan

People arent likely raising garbage from the SB, so it's safe to give him credit for some kind of hand. Flatting JJ is probably fine for setmining since if he 4bet jams over you you're obviously toast. Anyway he leads a totally dry flop into like 4 players, you have to give him credit for something now. Raising here is basically just a total bluff on your part, but for the sake of the hand lets say you did raise. When MP1 goes allin obviously HE has something. Whether or not you can put him on top set, from SB's point of view he just got raised and shoved on by 2 players. Unless he thinks you're all a bunch of idiots it's entirely believable he folded KK.

I would not have raised his cbet, since if he really does have AK then he's drawing to 6 outs, which aint that bad for you. You call his cbet, MP1 jams, then SB probably calls because now it looks more like he's up against a weak pair/draw. With this action behind you, you should be able to fold JJ at this point. If SB somehow finds a fold to just a single raise, then depending on MP1's stack size you call it off or reluctantly fold behind.

Think I agree with javi here. 5 way I probably wouldn't be raise/getting it in on this flop, you can just flat the lead and fold to the rejam. I wouldn't really hate 3betting pre but it is pretty sick to 3b/fold JJ so that would be a tough spot. I probably would lean towards 3betting the more stationy players behind you left to act were to open -- best to not see a 5 way flop with JJ, but if they were prone to fold to the $25 raise your flat is clearly best imo.

JJ is one of those weird hands that morphs in value depending on the action. We would never get it allin with 22 vs any player on the planet, just as much as we would never (rarely) slowplay AA vs a drooler. But JJ falls right in the middle. There's a reason so many people say they hate Jacks. Because they want to play it the same way all the time. As the preflop aggression ramps up the value of JJ goes down considerably, to the point that you're now playing it like 22 just to hit a set. But it's going to flop an overpair so often it can be really difficult to let it go. The solution? Most people arent bluffing allin on the flop with ace high or draws, so you should be able to fold JJ on any flop if you predict stacks are about to go in quickly.

S just flitting pre and calling flop bet is probably best scenario, fold to rejam. Wat about 3bet pre and fold to 4bet as stacks were over 150bb. A good percent of time he's folding to my 3bet with mediocre hands probably jamming Aa or kk and maybe flat aq 1010? Then play check check flop, but if he leads flop after flitting my 3bet it is a fold.
Unfortunately I played the hand not considering the short stack merely being concerned about getting stacked by e big stack. And the short stack was the one who came along. I don't thing big stack(bb) had kk like he said but nevertheless I played the hand badly.

Also wouldn't his Cbet on that flop be completely standard. I don't feel his Cbet necessarily means I need to give him credit to a hand no? I just feel that most decently knowledgable players are going to raise his position with a decently wide range of hands and Cbet the flop regardless.

He didnt just raise preflop though. He RE-raised. He also did it from the absolute worst position at the table, and he did it against YOU who raised under the gun, which means he's supposed to give your raise some kind of respect. For him to discount all 3 of these things and say "**** it, I'm gonna squeeze these fools" is quite a feat. And even then, if this was all a ruse, it's certainly not customary to cbet with 3 players left to act after you, and DEFINITELY not on a flop like this which for all intents and purposes is wet. For this to work he has to have some sick meta game going on with you guys, a lot of reads that he can get folds postflop, or just a pure gamble with a drawing hand that smashed the flop, in which case his cbet is for value anyway.

I do understand what your saying, I just would think it is standard to Cbet regardless of the flop being wet or not. And wouldn't if be standard to raise from sb with a straddle and 2 calls ahead to raise a good percentage of hands or would you just limp in? I am not discrediting what your saying by any means and I appreciate the feedback I just would think his Cbet would be standard but regardless ,y flop raise was wrong play as played pre flop I should of called flop bet. By him c betting 50 percent of the pot on the flop he only needs to win the hand like 35 percent of the time. For it to be profitable

Ok so it sounds like we have identified one good leak here, and thats the belief that you should cbet 100% of hands. No, it is not standard practice to cbet without a hand into a group of people. Generally when you cbet, you either want fewer people in the pot (most likely heads up), or you are last to act (they have all shown weakness by checking), or you have some good equity (oesd, flush draw, etc). To just fire AK for example would be a mistake from this position.

It looks like I forgot a portion of your hand and thought you raised preflop instead of straddled. Yes, this will open up his range a little bit, but he's still in horrible position and still has a lot of players left to act. In fact, it's even less likely that he'd do this with air since there's no incentive. At least facing a raise he can hope to scoop some dead money. There's no point in grabbing dead money vs 3 limpers though. For all but the most premium of hands he would be best served by just completing in the small blind hoping to hit a cheap flop that is already built up a little. So hands you would expect to see someone call a straddle from in the SB would be small pocket pairs, suited connectors, the usual stuff people call from in any position. (not that it's good to call from ANY position, I'm simply referring to your average donk)