hey guys, can I get some feedback on another hand please?

no reads on villain, I had only just been moved to his table. given his flat UTG and the fact he didnt 3 bet me preflop my initial thought was low/medium pockets.

when he calls my flop bet I was a little worried, and when he bet into me on the turn (when an ace hits) I was pretty sure he had made his set and had me on AK, AQ and was hoping I would shove back.

any thoughts? hand reading is something I struggle with, been trying to work on it so any constructive criticism is more than welcome

cheers!

CO: t2563 M = 4.17
BTN: t7375 M = 11.99
SB: t8291 M = 13.48
BB: t9226 M = 15.00
UTG: t8082 M = 13.14
UTG+1: t4025 M = 6.54
Hero (MP1): t6196 M = 10.07
MP2: t10925 M = 17.76

Pre Flop: (t615) Hero is MP1 with Q Q
UTG calls t250, 1 fold, Hero raises to t785, 5 folds, UTG calls t535

Flop: (t2185) 5 6 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t1365, UTG calls t1365

Turn: (t4915) A (2 players)
UTG bets t1500, Hero folds

this isnt the forum for hand discussion bud, it's here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-stakes-pl-nl/

Anyway, I think pre is fine but that you should just shove the flop. Your M is only 10 and at that point, you just want to get it all in with what is probably the best hand.

Sure it is - And he def shouldn't be posting a tournament hand in a ring game forum...

Anyway. The hand itself:

You really need to include information like tournament size and state of the tournament (how many players left, bubble, ITM, etc)

PF Raise is too small. Raise to T$1000, a little more if table is loose. Bet more on flop (3/4 pot). River fold is meh, probly a good fold.

Pre-flop looks OK to me. Bet more on flop, but definitely fold to his turn donk, even though it's a small bet, as he's rarely doing this with a flush draw. I think he has an ace almost always.

Thanks for the feedback guys Cry- sorry for not including more relevant info, will make sure I do next time. Looking at it again a few hours later I see I could have/ definitely should have made my bets bigger.

Just to clarify, is it OK to post hands here for discussion/feedback? I still feel like (and play like) a beginner so there will probably be a few more I need help with down the track... lol

Yes.

shove turn for value

Srsly? Pls tell me this is a whoosh?

srsly? golden rule of A is whenever theres 1 on the board your opponent is sure to have one right?

LOL - ok, I see your point....but really - villain checked/called, check/called, then 25% donk bet. I'd expect to see an ace here far more often than something we beat.

A is essentially a brick. It doesn't hit his range in any way. And you were gonna shove the turn if he didn't bet right? how does the tiny donk change anything? You should be more happy to get it in because you have less than half pot left

my thinking was along the lines of

- he's called me of the flop despite me representing either an overpair or AK.

how can he bet into me knowing the Ace is more than likely in my range unless he has that beat?

maybe he was putting out a blocker with a worse pair. maybe he also has a gut shot with 77 88 or 89. who knows how ******s think. he definitely could have a set or 78 too but you're beaten by too few hand combinations to fold QQ, and you're pot committed if you decide to continue.

If the A doesn't hit his range then the flop is a bullseye. I doubt we're ever ahead here, or if so it's closer to a flip if we read his betsize as a blocker. There's a decent chance he's trying to induce on this board too and hoping our cbet caught an A on the turn.

that being said, i probably still get it in on the turn

lol, it was either this or fold

cheers for the responses everyone, much appreciated