Let me throw a situation out there that was once debated in great detail on this site:

WSOP Main Event - very first hand of the tournament you look down at AA on the button.

UTG opens all in for 30k and 3 people call him. Do you call or fold?

If I won my way to the tournament through a 50$ satellite and most likely never will play there again, then I'd at least consider folding. Hard to tell what I'd really do until I am in that situation (you want to stake me so I can find out? ). If I'm a seasoned highstakes mtt pro playing my 7th Main Event, planning to play 17 more, then I call and hope the blinds are loose players.

You can never know what you would do it that situation,... but looking at it now, I'd say call aiec.

The situation would be even more interesting with KK imo.

not a good start on my grind. AA all in pre vs J8o and AA all in pre vs Q8o - minus two buyins on Q8x and J8x flops...Still, Im ahead in theory and thats what matters. Luckily I have another 40 odd buyins at this level so enough to absorb random bull **** like this for a while. Oh yh, guy 3bet shoves, I call with Ak - he has QQ. thats another BI.

If I could buy bagels with all the money I've won 'in theory', well, I'd have a lot of bagels.

Good luck Chad, your luck will change!

I believe Sklansky opened a bakery somewhere and they accept Sklansky bucks

I would be a sklansky bakery billionaire!

Mmmm, bagels!

I had an ordinary session earlier on 888. Down 1/2 a Bi, but made a $10 bonus so bout level.

If I'd won a couple of flips with AK v 44 and AKv 77 pf rather than lose them, the bagels would be on me!!

Thinking of moving to 888, how is traffic and the rakeback/bonus scheme there?? Do you get much back as a micros player? I'd be playing 10nl 6m if i went.

call. no reason I'm folding the best hand evah. if I lose I'll just stick to the 1/2 games in the next corner. plus, what are the odds I'd make ITM anyway?

with KK I fold. hey c'mon there's already 4 players allin, at least one of them must have AA! lol

All in with AA pre 100%

I lost a buyin at 25nl with the best hand all in pre

Don't play on there loads as mainly play on Everleaf but its soft on there, never sat at a table with less than one fish. Traffic is ok, software seems ok. No rb deals afaik, but vip scheme is ok I think.
Guess everyone has diff experiences but mine r ok with 888.

There is a 888 thread, prob worth a look on there to see what ppl really think

Play is totally ******ed there at 2NL.
Fish, calling stations, aggro donks, you name it.
I have to lol when they shove when I have the nuts and they turn over T4o and there is JKK on the flop or similar.
Still, because many of them think they can scare people out of pots with huge raises, yet they get callers anyway, people's stacks are very swingy.
It's not unusual to see 3 way all ins, all with one pair.

IN before new thread appears next month when OP gets Banned lolz.

Agreed. I'm still grinding a bonus on Stars, but I'm looking forward to getting back on 888. The play at 2NL and 6NL over there actually makes me laugh out loud sometimes. The reward scheme is pretty stingey, and the rake is pretty high, but the games are so soft that it's easy to get a double-digit winrate (10bb/100). You have to embrace the variance (be prepared for weird suckouts), but by playing ABC poker you can't really lose.

Thanks guys, been having a look at the 888 and might give it a go next month, was gonna just get on there tonight but put my $$ back on stars after leaving iPoker yesterday and now I can't cashout within 48hrs of deposit, never knew that, ah well 10nl 6max at stars for me now then!

Really ?

In a one off event like the WSOP ME, with days of play left in it, you would definitely get it in as a dog on the first hand of the tourney so you could maybe quadruple up or whatever a minority of the time ?

tl;dr just venting.....


Played an omaha 3.30 rebuy MTT today.
I was playing great, reading great and had made it down to the last 18.

I then got dealt AA77 and called a raise in the BB.
saw the flop 3 with 3 runners, CO, BTN and me.

flop came 69Tr

(I should mention that that the table had just been put together and its 6 max. I had been watching the last few tables getting reads on player etc. the guy who opened and the guy that called were very loose and I had clocked this ages ago, they bluff a lot.)

now I check and he C bets and the BTN called.
Im thinking that with our stack sizes that he cant really call a raise and this seemed like a bit of a wierd bet into 2 other players in his fist hand on a new table.

I also have 77 so the odds of him holding 78 for the straight are low right?

So I decide to jam and rep 78 and hope that BTN folds perhaps top pair with gutshot etc.
he calls and so does the BTN.

the CO shows jjkk and the BTN shows 789T. and takes the pot.

I feel like such a dick. I missed out on a nice BR double up if I made final table.
I tilted because the guy was loose and bluffed a lot, also his avatar got under my skin too , I just forgot about the third guy on the BTN. I could kick myself. Such a waste of the day. I had a crappy over pair and I donked my stack away in 18th place.

I think I just wanted to see if my read was right. It was, but I forgot about the BTN and didnt really think about why he was calling.
It felt like I was meant to win the thing with all the great plays I made.

Im just getting it off my chest. the more I think about it the more I think how stupid I was for shoving. I should have folded and then laughed when the BTN shows the winning hand and knocks out the donkfish. Instead I was also a donkfish and probably helped one of the worst players in the game move into first place in chips.

rant over !


And I should also mention that this game was played with my last 3.30, yes that was all of it. I had been watching a 400nl game and think of times passed lol. And I saw a guy just start open shoving for a few hands in a row, I quickly sat down and he stacked me in about 5 hands when I had AKs and he had A3off. He hit a three.

SO I quickly started to hate myself etc. played the 3.30 omaha game (why I dont know) built a huge stack and donked it in 18th, final table would have renewed my BR.

So I fell pretty crappy tonight.
I have deleted the HH for 400nl off my pc and I will have to reload the amount I had before this happened.
I wont be watching anymore game I cant afford.

The best bit is I have yet to tell my other half. shes been really happy that Ive been playing so good this year.
its more than a few hundred quid but I need it to grind up a bankroll ready for spain.

she was in a foul mood after uni today so I decided to not tell her until she is pretty happy. Might save myself a smack XD

Im such a tool.

There's a guy at my table who is playing 60/0 and is sitting on a 9 BI stack. Never seen a luckbox like that ever before. He just calls with ATC and hits all the time. Often calling potsized bets when way behind on the flop, but then he makes some miracle runner runner hands that nobody could ever put him on. Wish I was running like that sometimes. But I guess I never will, because I can't run like that unless I start calling potsized bets chasing backdoor draws.

Yeah you see these guys doing that. He will donate it all back, just try to make sure that you get a chunk of it.

Yeah, trying my best. I just hope he doesn't run away until I start getting some playable hands.

that's the point. you don't really know how long are you staying in this tournament. who might know if in the next hour, you get valueowned twice by fishes who just rivered their 2-outers, then you become shortstack, begins to go all-in, and a more experience player make the call with good odds and knocks you out? if I am to lose with aces preflop in the first hand, so be it. I can't really imagine myself folding AA unless this play is obvious -EV (as the classic example of a satellite where you are the chip leader and don't need to play more hands to assure your seat...but then the 2nd in chips, and the difference is thin, goes all-in vs you)
that said I don't even imagine myself in the WSOP ME, but that's another story

101% mate. And I would be pumping fist as I called it too. I dont pay 10k entry fee to not get it all in with a big edge

oh and 3pidemic? I guessed that would happen. Surprised though. Thought you had enough about you to stay within your roll.

heh, but if you don't think you can play it for days, you shouldn't be there on day 1

Of course you can get coolered at any time, but just because you have the best hand vs any one villain shouldn't encourage you to get it in as a definite underdog, in a $10K buyin tourney. IMO anyway.