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Facing a 4-bet with Ako. Facing a 4-bet with Ako.

11-21-2022 , 04:10 PM
Very new player here, just having fun at NL2.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 198.5 BB
CO: 54 BB
BTN: 38.5 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 98.5 BB
UTG: 138 BB
UTG+1: 79 BB
MP: 146 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, MP raises to 25 BB, fold, Hero calls 13 BB

Flop: (54 BB, 2 players) 5 3 Q
Hero bets 15.5 BB, MP raises to 121 BB and is all-in, fold

MP wins 82 BB

I know nothing about the villain. So my thoughts are, going all in pre - after getting 4 bet here seems like an option? As played with the call, I think betting the flop was a mistake, feels like a check fold board at that point.
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11-21-2022 , 07:50 PM
Hard to say. Not sure what population is 4 betting/ calling 5 bets with, calling the 4 bet OOP isn't really awful.
Not a fan of the donk bet. Think that there's, very little reason to be donking on this texture. Prefer a c/c, or a c/r shove instead.

Edit: Actually, with stack sizes, he's probably just going to get it in with his hand. C/f is probably better imo.
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11-25-2022 , 09:48 AM
Preflop: With no read on villain, the min 3! can look very strong, so calling is correct.

Flop: You missed. There is zero reason to lead here with 2 overs and only back door draws. But you can call a reasonable bet, so check.

As played: Easy fold. Even if he's shoving with AQ, TT or JJ, you still don't have odds to call.
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11-29-2022 , 01:16 PM
hello!

It is clear that AKo sb vs MP 4bet isn't easy. I think we should 5bet all in almost every spot lik this and i will explain why.
reason 1. you will never be sure our opponent got only AA KK, like you will never be sure he will every have AQ KQ KJ or not
reason 2. how you will play postflop if you are not sure about he's range?
reason 3. we have an A and a K, witch means now he have half less AA and KK combos. if we assume this game have lot of missed information, we also should assume that sometimes he will also have another AK, AQ, A5s, KJ, KQ, AJs, etc. maybe this time we will meet a guy that does it only with AA and KK, but maybe other time we will meet a guy that play GTO ranges, or maybe we already play vs a crazy guy that does lot of 4bet. because you never know, and because you will meet the same problem again postflop( the problem with he's unknown range) i like to say that we have to go 5bet all in and focus the next hand whatever will happen here.

gl and keep learning!
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01-11-2023 , 04:55 PM
I'd probably just fold pre.

People very rarely 4bet at NL2. You are gonna be facing a made hand more often than not so it depends on your appetite for variance.

No need to get your pants in a twist over situations like this. Wait for a situation where you have more information then you can feel a lot better about jamming pre.

I mean what happens post flop of you call and the flop comes Axx. Is 10s-kks gonna pay you off? Doubt it. I seem to win the most with AK just from having a better kicker.

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01-21-2023 , 09:40 PM
So couple things to think about. You are out of position sb (or bb) so try to make the squeeze a little larger to deny them calling with hands where they have position on you multiway. Just remember that this guy 4 betted with not just you but the CO still left to act. At these stakes they are not pushing edges 4 betting light. They are either playing like fish or too tight here. If you flat it is a pretty bad idea to not check on the flop at these stakes. The board doesn't really hit your range but he could easily have QQ+. Call me boring but I've found minraising doesn't really work with fish...they don't get it and might spazz. If you were to consider 1/2 bet remember that he might be fish so he does still have alot of Q's in his range. It also is different when you are the 4 bettor and are cbetting you will get alot more folds.
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