Expected win rate at 2nl
04-01-2014
, 02:18 PM
(^^ chad's PGC thread
)Given that its 5+ years on, and the games even at 2NL have probably gotten a little better, and this was before the rake changes that hit 2NL very hard were implemented (Hold on Pokerstars, when did you start raking these pots?)
I haven't played 2NL for a while, so I can't say for sure, but I'd think that 15bb/100 would be hard for all but the top grinders.
04-01-2014
, 03:55 PM
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Chipstar1 was a top 2NL grinder back in the day (before he became a PS pro in 2010) and his win rate was ~21bb/100
(^^ chad's PGC thread)
Given that its 5+ years on, and the games even at 2NL have probably gotten a little better, and this was before the rake changes that hit 2NL very hard were implemented (Hold on Pokerstars, when did you start raking these pots?)
I haven't played 2NL for a while, so I can't say for sure, but I'd think that 15bb/100 would be hard for all but the top grinders.
(^^ chad's PGC thread
)Given that its 5+ years on, and the games even at 2NL have probably gotten a little better, and this was before the rake changes that hit 2NL very hard were implemented (Hold on Pokerstars, when did you start raking these pots?)
I haven't played 2NL for a while, so I can't say for sure, but I'd think that 15bb/100 would be hard for all but the top grinders.
I've played a lot of 2nl FR last year to build two BR because I didn't want to make any deposit. I was above 20bb/100 over 40k hand sample (2nl brag !) with a 6.5% rake. My rake adjusted winrate was something like 35bb/100.
I'm also pretty sure that some other BQ 2+2ers have reported similar winrates, which makes me think that 15bb/100 is likely to be sustainable.
However, such winrates are probably only possible thanks to drunk guys who drop you 5BI over 30 hands.
04-01-2014
, 05:04 PM
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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 04-01-2014 at 05:09 PM.
Reason: that and runnung into thrice betting maniac BQers ,,,
04-03-2014
, 06:28 AM
04-03-2014
, 07:05 AM
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I have had a handful of 100k+ hand breakeven stretches at way higher stakes than NL2 while mass multi-tabling yes. These were all millions of hands into my poker career and in the last couple of years as the games got a bit harder.
Starting at the lowest stakes though many years ago I never had any trouble. I just killed them right away. NL2 is still just a circus. I think the longest breakeven I ever had was 10k hands and this is over millions of hands. When you are talking about winrates of 20bb/100, 30bb/100 or more you don't really even have losing days assuming big volume.
Starting at the lowest stakes though many years ago I never had any trouble. I just killed them right away. NL2 is still just a circus. I think the longest breakeven I ever had was 10k hands and this is over millions of hands. When you are talking about winrates of 20bb/100, 30bb/100 or more you don't really even have losing days assuming big volume.
Great Book btw...really enjoying it...reading sections and rereading it as I play...hasn't all sunk in yet though, but it will and its definitely helping, especially some of the post flop stuff. Not feeling like a fish out of water anymore
