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Is this even possible? Is this even possible?

08-08-2022 , 01:24 PM
Hi guys,

Honestly sorry for the recurring question, but a simple yes it is mathematically possible, or no it's glitched would really help me out.

Asked twice before (was right fully bashed by sixfour) but I need one key answer to this question:
Is it mathematically possible to have stats as shown in the screenshots?
The definition of the stats can be found here: https://help.ggpoker.com/article/434...istics-summary

They do not deviate from the definitions as we know them. So my question is it is possible to have such a low PFR? I need to know so I'm not losing my mind with the doubt that GG poker's HUD (they don't allow extern huds) is unreliable and "glitched". If so I of course have to hop pokerclient.




Example stats from the 10NL nl zoom/rush pool on GG poker 1~15k hand samples:

Last edited by Vleesjas; 08-08-2022 at 01:30 PM.
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08-08-2022 , 01:49 PM
Why do you think it's not possible?
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08-08-2022 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Why do you think it's not possible?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my own database out of 170k hands I had 37,4% times the opportunity to 3bet.
If we take this HUD with 52% 3bet and 14% PFR, and add the math from the 37,4% opportunity, and here's where I'm not sure of, end up with 37,4 / 52 * 100 = 19,5% 3bet(?).
Is the math correct here? And what about the 99% ATS, 27% 3bet, and only 16% PFR, it just feels like the gap is too big, even without not being sure about the math.

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08-08-2022 , 03:14 PM
Are you trying to divide your three-bet opportunity % by some else's three-bet % to get ... something?
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08-08-2022 , 05:40 PM
You're misinterpreting the stats even though you posted a link that explains them.

PFR is a stat about preflop raises, that does not include preflop re-raises. Those are covered in the 3bet stat. Both PFR and 3Bet contribute to VPIP.
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08-10-2022 , 07:30 PM
op makes a good point, some of these stats should not be theoretically possible, and are likely anomalies due to a low sample size, or just a bug in gg hud

for example, the guy with 52% 3bet might have had a VERY abnormally low number of opportunities to 3bet over that sample and took a VERY abnormally high number of those opportunities

though tbh some of those numbers are so extreme that software bug might be more likely
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08-12-2022 , 10:39 PM
there must be bugs in that hud.. how are those high 3bet frequencies even possible
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08-12-2022 , 11:20 PM
Did you download the same hands and import them to PT4, HM3, DH2, H2N and compare the results?
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08-13-2022 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by newbyz
there must be bugs in that hud.. how are those high 3bet frequencies even possible
Some people play poker differently than you, film at 11
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08-13-2022 , 04:33 PM
Ggs HUD is not reliable afaik. Do not use it to make core decisions.
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09-02-2022 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Some people play poker differently than you, film at 11
what does film at 11 mean
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09-02-2022 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by newbyz
what does film at 11 mean
Perhaps you could google that question to find the answer?
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