Please help!


Game started at: 2014/7/2 13:20:15
Game ID: 295178200 2/4 Baotite (Short, PRR) (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (434.60).
Seat 3: Milwaukee2 (245.20).
Seat 4: NoahSDsDad (240.63).
Seat 5: big eyes (161.66).
Seat 6: GoatBoat (365.45).
Player big eyes has small blind (2)
Player GoatBoat has big blind (4)
Player big eyes received a card.
Player big eyes received a card.
Player GoatBoat received a card.
Player GoatBoat received a card.
Player Hero received card: [7h]
Player Hero received card: [7c]
Player Milwaukee2 received a card.
Player Milwaukee2 received a card.
Player NoahSDsDad received a card.
Player NoahSDsDad received a card.
Player Hero raises (12)
Player Milwaukee2 folds
Player NoahSDsDad calls (12)
Player big eyes calls (10)
Player GoatBoat calls (8)
*** FLOP ***: [7d Qc 10h]
Player big eyes checks
Player GoatBoat checks
Player Hero checks
Player NoahSDsDad checks
*** TURN ***: [7d Qc 10h] [Jc]
Player big eyes checks
Player GoatBoat checks
Player Hero checks
Player NoahSDsDad bets (36)
Player big eyes folds
Player GoatBoat folds
Player Hero calls (36)
*** RIVER ***: [7d Qc 10h Jc] [4s]
Player Hero checks
Player NoahSDsDad bets (84)
Player Hero calls (84)
Player Hero mucks cards
------ Summary ------
Pot: 286. Rake 1.76. JP fee 0.24
Board: [7d Qc 10h Jc 4s]
Player Hero mucks (does not show: [7h 7c]). Bets: 132. Collects: 0. Loses: 132.
Player Milwaukee2 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
*Player NoahSDsDad shows: Straight to Q [9s 8s]. Bets: 132. Collects: 286. Wins: 154.
Player big eyes does not show cards.Bets: 12. Collects: 0. Loses: 12.
Player GoatBoat does not show cards.Bets: 12. Collects: 0. Loses: 12.
Game ended at: 2014/7/2 13:22:5

Bet the flop

how much?

Is your bet button broken? Bet! Bet! Bet!

Please tell me this isn't a real money game!

Somewhere in the 2/3 -3/4 pot area.

bet F bet T bet R, consider folding to raises on T & R but only extreme situations

flop check was really horrible

In my opinion you should bet flop turn and river, if on river raises iwould never pay it, as exception a minraise on turn if it would be an agressive player but that move shows a big strengh so to do a call you should know him too well and be sure that is mad but...std bet.bet.bet

It was. I bet it wouldn't surprise you that I lost my whole paycheck yesterday($780).

How would you of played it?

WPN doesn't have a 3/4 button to click. Do I have to manually type it in? What about the river? What if I'm reraised anywhere throughout?

What kind of bets do you suggest on the flop, turn, and river?

What does std mean? Also, what type of betting should I be doing on the flop, turn, and river?

You are playing way, way above your skill level. Those are serious, professional level stakes. You will lose your paycheck every week if you keep playing those stakes. Move down to the lowest stakes offered by whichever site this is. Probably blinds of $.01/$.02. I am dead, dead serious. Unless you enjoy being broke you need to wise up now.

If you are smart and study the game seriously - like a part time job or college and then full time. You might be able to beat those stakes two or four years from now. Maybe.

I played poker seriously for about 6 years. I was a full time pro for 4 years. I was a Supernova on PokerStars and I have played more than 5 million real money online hands.

The highest online cash games stakes I beat was $200NL which is a level below what you were playing. That was four years ago - I no longer play at a "competitive level". The games were quite a bit softer then.

I would never sit at that table.

I doubt there is anyone currently posting in the Beginners forum who is qualified to give advice for online 6-max $400NL. You might as well ask for advice on the soccer game you're playing against Brazil tomorrow.

Since virtually everyone called your UTG raise, they're almost certainly all regs you have you pegged as a super-fish and they're all dying to play a hand with you so you can donate your paycheck to them. You are dead-meat at that table. You might as well challenge Tiger Wood to a game of golf for $200 a hole - At least then you could brag about playing with him.

Those guys would hate me right now for tapping the glass but I can not in good conscious do anything but emphasize, please, please, please do not play anywhere near those stakes again.

Back in the day it stood for "sexually transmitted disease". These days, I understand the kids refer to something as bad as your play as "aids". They tell me "sick" means something else entirely.


But seriously folks...

I believe he meant it as "standard", as in "the standard sort of play", IOW what most people would usually do in this situation.

Half pot might do on a dry flop against a single opponent. Against 3 opponents you'd need to bet more. I'd look at from 3/4 pot up to pot. Once the turn card hits, putting straight and flush draws on board, you need to be betting enough to deny a third caller pot odds to call with a draw.

Don't rely on preset buttons. Learn to do simple division. 3/4 of the pot was the amount your opponent bet on the turn. I'll bet he worked that out in his head and typed it in or moved a slider.

Pay attention to CMAR's last post. In the event you are only playing at a $0.02/$0.04 game, you're still playing at too high stakes for your current knowledge and skill levels. But then your loss rate would be spectacular rather than just regrettable.

With your next pay cheque, deposit no more than 10% of it on a poker site. That will give you 39 buy-ins at lowest stakes. Those should last you until you have a couple more pay cheques deposited. Perhaps invest up to 20% of one pay cheque on a couple of good poker books. Study them and this site. Use the rest of your pay cheques for life essentials. If you have anything left over, invest it in something boring but solid, or use it to take some continuing education courses.

I would like to learn how to play winning poker. If I wanted to go to the mall and buy some clothes, I would. Obviously becoming a l33t player online would be difficult, but I believe anything is possible. I'm going to have to do a lot of studying, discussing, and analyzing. I believe in myself, and in my ability.

I'm definitely going go take the advice I was given from the gentlemen above though. What should my bankroll be in order to taken even one shot @ a $1/2?

5k take a shot, if you're crushing 100nl.... 7-10k minimum to properly rolled for 200nl

Seriously I don't think you've reading CMAR's post properly because it definitely applies to you, if you're playing on stars put on a restriction to only be able to play 2nl aka 1c/2c. People make decent livings grinding 50-200nl and they will eat you alive you'll just be lighting your pay checks on fire.

If you think 2nl is beneath you, be prepare to loss 50-100k learning the game at 100nl+.

Bet the flop 3/4 to pot. It might get the straight draw to lay it down. Otherwise, bet turn and re-evaluate if raised. If you have no reads on the player, you're in a crappy spot but if you are playing roll on table it might be possible to drop the hand if raised on the turn.

How do I get better at poker?

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?

What do you think we're all trying to do here? You get better by studying, studying, and studying. It takes years to become a decent poker player, there's no one simple trick (regs hate him!) For getting better. Take CMAR and DoTheMath's advice.

lol wtf, you serious. You definitely won't get better by playing 400nl.

I don't think you quite realise how terrible at poker you are. No offence meant but if you don't realise soon just how far down the food chain you are you will have a very expensive lesson.

I agree with playing micros to get better but it you do wanna play higher stakes play the micros online and play at your local casino and don't use your whole paycheck.

Playing micro stakes you will get volume you need in order to get better.

Playing once in a while at the casino you will play stakes that you want to play and you can use what you learn at the micros to help improve your strategy.

You said you believe in your game, everyone does. The difference between believing and proving is constant study with lots of volume. I'm sure everyone here feels you have the potential to be a winning player, but a winning player uses all the tools necessary to achieve his/her goals. So take into consideration some of the exceptional advice on this thread and good luck.