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09-23-2021 , 04:35 AM

smuffin

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BTN opens and BB calls.
BB checks and BTN checks back.
If BB bets on turn, is this donk?

If it isn't, how do I call this bet?
It's not cbet cuz it's not 'continuation' bet.

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09-23-2021 , 06:59 AM

Kurn, son of Mogh

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A "donk" bet is a lead OOP into the preflop raiser.

Since the flop checked around, BB's bet OTT doesn't fit the definition.

As to whether or not you should call, how can anyone answer? You've provided about 1% of the relevant information from which to form an opinion.

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09-23-2021 , 08:51 AM

SpewingIsMyMove

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh

OP meant 'What do I call that bet'. This is a terminology question, not a strat question

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09-23-2021 , 08:55 AM

SpewingIsMyMove

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Originally Posted by smuffin

BTN opens and BB calls.
BB checks and BTN checks back.
If BB bets on turn, is this donk?

If it isn't, how do I call this bet?
It's not cbet cuz it's not 'continuation' bet.

I guess, technically, it could be called a 'delayed donk bet', but this is not a terribly useful description, as I think the situation has changed sufficiently that the turn OOP bet doesn't really serve the same function as a flop donk bet.

Usually, I would define my bet here by it's intended function. is it a tickler, a blocking bet, a bluff, a probe?

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09-23-2021 , 09:12 AM

smuffin

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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove

Thanks! Helped me alot!

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09-23-2021 , 10:17 AM

Yeodan

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Isn't this called a probe bet?

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09-23-2021 , 11:50 AM

browni3141

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Betting OOP after the last aggressor checked the prior street is called a probe.

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09-23-2021 , 01:00 PM

Yeodan

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Originally Posted by browni3141

Betting OOP after the last aggressor checked the prior street is called a probe.

yes, that's what OP described not?

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09-24-2021 , 02:23 AM

browni3141

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Originally Posted by Yeodan

yes, that's what OP described not?

Wasn’t disagreeing with you. Just confirming.

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09-24-2021 , 05:15 AM

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Yeodan

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Originally Posted by browni3141

Wasn’t disagreeing with you. Just confirming.

same

wasn't sure if I missed something

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09-24-2021 , 06:53 AM

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Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove

OP meant 'What do I call that bet'. This is a terminology question, not a strat question

My mistake

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09-24-2021 , 10:18 AM

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There could be a couple of definitions I think and certainly 'probe' is one of them. You almost need to know the desired effect of the bet to define it as a probe, bluff, value or block.

If there's no betting on the previous street I would think any OOP bet would just be a 'lead' bet unless by the PF raiser, then 'delayed C-Bet' applies. You could also call it an 'open' but we usually keep that term for PF action .. doesn't mean it wouldn't apply to all streets.

I think any Player OOP on the previous aggressor has a chance to 'donk', some in my reg group think that only the first Player OOP is truly a Donk. GL

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