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12-08-2013 , 05:58 PM
Sup guys, just checking in.
Not played much since half way through November due to bad downswing halving my roll and then new job which has left me shattered.
Played a bit today and a few days ago but less than 1k hands this month.
Need to shake off the cobwebs and clear a few FPPs to get a small bonus before the end of the month.

A few hands from today.

Good squueze spot I thought, can't really call or GII to check raise?
But villain turned out to be an uber aggro donk anyway.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $5.18 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
CO: $12.50 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: $4.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $3.46 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K J

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.50, 3 players) T Q 7
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, fold, SB raises to $2.96 and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:
SB wins $2.78


lol had the best hand every step of the way here, but didn't really look like it from the board. Shame I folded turn though.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $11.85 (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 26.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: $5.45 (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: $2.03 (VPIP: 56.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
SB: $7.75 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 13.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
Hero (BB): $5.58

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.32, 3 players) 5 2 2
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.92, 3 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, fold

River: ($1.42, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, MP checks

Spoiler:
UTG shows K 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Twos) (Pre 47%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
MP mucks 4 4 (Two Pair, Fours and Twos) (Pre 53%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins $1.36


Thought from his stats he'd barrel with Qx and a worse king and I still think he would.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $4.54 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 6)
BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $15.62 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $7.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 14.13, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 97)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J K

fold, CO raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) Q 7 K
Hero checks, CO bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.65, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($1.65, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Spoiler:
CO shows A K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 75%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks J K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 25%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
CO wins $3.12


Guy had reg stats, what's he donking river with?
(On 2nd thoughts he hasn't got reg stats, these guys with 18-24VPIP and 10-14PFR tend to do weird 'fancy' play stuff).

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $5.22 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (MP): $5.00
CO: $5.14 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
BTN: $5.24 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $6.00 (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 95)
BB: $5.16 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q J

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) 3 Q 8
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.85, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

River: ($1.65, 2 players) Q
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Spoiler:
SB shows J K (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 71%, Flop 46%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows Q J (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 29%, Flop 54%, Turn 73%)
Hero wins $3.31


Thought he had TP at worst here, was kind of expecting to see TJ.
Oh well, made my session.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $5.32 (VPIP: 18.60, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
Hero (MP): $5.00
CO: $5.30 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 48)
BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 49)
SB: $3.53 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: $1.71 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) T 4 J
SB bets $0.35, Hero raises to $0.85, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.05, 2 players) 6
SB bets $2.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.53

River: ($7.11, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
SB shows T K (Two Pair, Tens and Fours) (Pre 32%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (Pre 68%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $6.81
12-08-2013 , 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dillchips
gamma you're playing it too?
nah too busy with cash tables I wouldn't buy into it and satties take too much time
12-08-2013 , 06:00 PM
50th in the milly, with 16k ppl still left in I hope to keep this up
12-08-2013 , 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunna100
They're not, and you'll see as much bad play as you will in a $2 BI tourney.
+1 to that. the play is atrocious in big advertised tournies like this.
12-08-2013 , 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pronk
50th in the milly, with 16k ppl still left in I hope to keep this up
Just log out. You'll get a mincash at least lol.
12-08-2013 , 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunna100
Just log out. You'll get a mincash at least lol.
Nah gonna go for the big $$ bro Playing very tight anyways, fishes will pay you off like ape**** crazy
12-08-2013 , 06:30 PM
meh.... thoughts?

PokerStars - $200+$15|250/500 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+2: 17,922 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
Hero (MP): 61,934
MP+1: 25,921 (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
CO: 34,905 (VPIP: 20.90, PFR: 16.92, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 67)
BTN: 6,584 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 56)
SB: 16,049 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 22)
BB: 33,744 (VPIP: 13.61, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 8.06, Hands: 148)
UTG: 7,877 (VPIP: 15.75, PFR: 13.01, 3Bet Preflop: 3.51, Hands: 148)
UTG+1: 5,202 (VPIP: 12.84, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 148)

9 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 250, BB posts BB 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,200) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,000, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 3,000, Hero calls 2,000

Flop: (6,700, 2 players) J 6 6
BB bets 3,300, Hero calls 3,300

Turn: (13,300, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (13,300, 2 players) K
BB bets 6,500, fold
12-08-2013 , 06:43 PM
^BB's a nit, I'd fold pre.

Milly stack update: 20k, 5440 out of 11k runners

Last edited by dillchips; 12-08-2013 at 06:45 PM. Reason: no hud, just winging it
12-08-2013 , 06:47 PM
I think BB's range is mostly big pairs and big Ax, especially since you said you were playing pretty tight so he's def not 3betting light (doubt he would do that with these positions anyway).

That having said, turn and river are wp. Pre and flop look fine too imo, but maybe others think different about that. Don't really get his turn check though... Maybe pot control?

Lol I feel so silly trying to comment on HH's like these. The highest mtt I've ever played was a $2.20 rebuy.
12-08-2013 , 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F2012
Lol I feel so silly trying to comment on HH's like these. The highest mtt I've ever played was a $2.20 rebuy.
the highest I played before this was a $11 sunday storm, and I didn't know BRM back then so I was playing underrolled.

tbh, at my table right now, most of them are labeled as fish nits and I haven't seen a non shove 3b since registering. it's around the same level as a normal speed $2.20 pretty much as of now. like one guy just shoved TJo with ~12k chips from the BTN.
12-08-2013 , 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dillchips
the highest I played before this was a $11 sunday storm, and I didn't know BRM back then so I was playing underrolled.

tbh, at my table right now, most of them are labeled as fish nits and I haven't seen a non shove 3b since registering. it's around the same level as a normal speed $2.20 pretty much as of now. like one guy just shoved TJo with ~12k chips from the BTN.
Im jealous of you table, my table now has mostly solid regs..
anyway: 56k with blinds nearing 500/1000 pos: 775/9.5k
12-08-2013 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
Was you at my tables last night? I saw someone say Hey Viva but i'd folded before i could see what the name was
Yeah that was me. we were involved in one hand where you completed with A4cc and lead into me (BB) and a UTG limpet on 873cc. I took it down with top pair since you checked turn with my 98o, but as I said I think barreling is best.
12-08-2013 , 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
Good squueze spot I thought, can't really call or GII to check raise?
But villain turned out to be an uber aggro donk anyway.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $5.18 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
CO: $12.50 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: $4.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $3.46 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K J

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.50, 3 players) T Q 7
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, fold, SB raises to $2.96 and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:
SB wins $2.78
Looks like a call to me given the pot odds. We get 30,45% and vs QQ,TT,77,AQ,QT we have 32.28%
12-08-2013 , 07:29 PM
Just some line checks.

h1: Should we check here...?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.15 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: $15.62 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (BB): $10.00
CO: $11.49 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A 7

fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) K T Q
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, fold

h2: too wet board to be betting on? c/c river? I knew that i should have donked this. Exactly my thoughts when the T hit, this happens always when you check it :P

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.59 (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
BTN: $12.87 (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 29)
Hero (SB): $10.37
BB: $15.25 (VPIP: 40.35, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 59)
UTG: $10.00 (VPIP: 18.94, PFR: 16.86, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 444)
MP: $10.72 (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A J

fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($1.00, 3 players) J 9 6
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.00, 3 players) T
Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60, fold

River: ($2.20, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $1.00, fold

h3: It makes me sick to do this, but it's the most +EV?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $8.88 (VPIP: 48.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: $14.06 (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 55)
MP: $11.35 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: $4.47 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (SB): $10.36

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J A

fold, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, MP calls $1.10, fold

Flop: ($2.90, 2 players) 9 Q 8
Hero checks, MP bets $1.40, fold

MP wins $2.77
12-08-2013 , 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OlyBrah
Yeah that was me. we were involved in one hand where you completed with A4cc and lead into me (BB) and a UTG limpet on 873cc. I took it down with top pair since you checked turn with my 98o, but as I said I think barreling is best.
Yea, i didn't barrel turn as had 2 callers to the turn and the 3 was a dead card. So figured i wasn't getting any folds and i'm behind most calling ranges and figured i'd get at least 1 caller to the river. If it was a raised pot then i would be inclined to bet the turn

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $21.56 (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (SB): $33.29
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG: $21.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $41.05 (VPIP: 27.61, PFR: 20.86, 3Bet Preflop: 11.27, Hands: 172)
CO: $10.34 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 76)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A 4

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40, 4 players) 3 7 6
Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30, fold

Turn: ($1.30, 3 players) 3
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

River: ($1.30, 3 players) 9
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows A 4 (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 31%, Flop 44%, Turn 27%)
BB shows 8 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Threes) (Pre 45%, Flop 48%, Turn 67%)
UTG mucks 4 A (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 24%, Flop 7%, Turn 6%)
BB wins $1.24
12-08-2013 , 07:53 PM
Your check isn't bad given you got two calls. During the hand your range looked strong. I figured you would leave any over-pair that wasn't strong enough to iso preflop (88, maybe as strong as TT? Unsure how you play to UTG limpers), any sets, and a few semi-bluffs. The 3 is a pretty bad card for me in the instance that you're leading an overpair or set or anything considering I'd be drawing dead, which is why I would have possibly folded to a turn bet.

I'd definitely be betting if the fish folded on the flop.

Looking back at it I'm unsure if my turn and river checks are bad or not. 7x can get some value, but a fish is likely to even turn up with hands like K7s and such, so yeah.
12-08-2013 , 07:56 PM
Updates on the million?
12-08-2013 , 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F2012
Updates on the million?
750 away from the bubble, dillchips and yours truly are still in with 63k and 88k respectively, with blinds 1k/2k and average around 50k
Lets pwn that bubble!
12-08-2013 , 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pronk
750 away from the bubble, dillchips and yours truly are still in with 63k and 88k respectively, with blinds 1k/2k and average around 50k
Lets pwn that bubble!
Nice! Even if you only mincash, $269,25 is a nice reward for an ($xx,xx ?) satelite

Gogogo

Edit: btw, if anyones sn is outed, I wouldn't mind to rail a couple of hands
12-08-2013 , 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OlyBrah
Your check isn't bad given you got two calls. During the hand your range looked strong. I figured you would leave any over-pair that wasn't strong enough to iso preflop (88, maybe as strong as TT? Unsure how you play to UTG limpers), any sets, and a few semi-bluffs. The 3 is a pretty bad card for me in the instance that you're leading an overpair or set or anything considering I'd be drawing dead, which is why I would have possibly folded to a turn bet.

I'd definitely be betting if the fish folded on the flop.

Looking back at it I'm unsure if my turn and river checks are bad or not. 7x can get some value, but a fish is likely to even turn up with hands like K7s and such, so yeah.
Yea i'm not completely any pair 22-66 i'm probably making it 3x because of the UTG stack size. My SB has gone from 18/13 to 12/9 and i only completed because UTG was 200BB deep.

I'd be raising anything decent 77+ , ATo+, KJo+ probably vs the UTG limp as they are easy enough to play OOP vs the UTG & MP. So most of my completely hands are speculative suited hands since i was 200BB deep vs 2 fish.
12-08-2013 , 08:15 PM
246k and 9th in themilly!!!!!!
edit: f2012 you can rail me: Fisherman FV
12-08-2013 , 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pronk
246k and 9th in themilly!!!!!!
edit: f2012 you can rail me: Fisherman FV
glglgl
12-08-2013 , 08:20 PM
lol weren't you ****ting bricks when calling that river w/ 99?
12-08-2013 , 08:23 PM
Yes, but shoving with anything except a bluff doesn't make any sense there
Hand we're talking about:
PokerStars - $200+$15|1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 277,808 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 93,253 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 105,052 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (UTG): 92,224
UTG+1: 35,870 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG+2: 22,830 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 49,111 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 22,072 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 155,858 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

9 players post ante of 200, SB posts SB 1,000, BB posts BB 2,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,800) Hero has 9 9

Hero raises to 4,000, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 11,111, fold, fold, Hero calls 7,111

Flop: (27,022, 2 players) 2 3 K
Hero checks, BTN bets 10,000, Hero calls 10,000

Turn: (47,022, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (47,022, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 256,497 and is all-in, Hero calls 70,913 and is all-in

Villain had 75s
12-08-2013 , 08:25 PM
Not a fan of the call OOP with 99 50bb deep. If he is 3betting a lot then just 4bet ship.

gl mate tho. Ship it

      
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