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10-09-2010 , 05:54 PM

Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

My bankroll is currently 720 $s and I grind 10NL. On PStars I can easily get Platinum in 10 days, much like I have been doing. I play a bit more LAGy then usual, so my rakeback would be good. I cannot get rakeback on Full Tilt and am a USA player. Combined with rake race, promotions, rakeback, and RAISE loyalty program, couldn't I make a much better earn on my money? I don't feel proud considering UB but the softness of the games and missed rakeback looks so juicy...

Thanks.

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10-09-2010 , 05:59 PM

blackgerbil1

banned

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,445

try cake or merge, but since you play FR, you wont find many sites that have a ton of tables for it expect stars/ftp

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10-09-2010 , 06:27 PM

Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

Well Cereus has more traffic than cake and merge, the action on those suck, the average pots for the 10NL tables are all like $1.50 and $2.00 compared to $.4 on Pstars.

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10-09-2010 , 07:37 PM

Amoff

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 634

I had the same thought this summer. I was sweating/coaching a friend of mine at 50 and 100NL and I was amazed at the sheer number of people playing like 55/6, even at 100NL!! There were 3-4 droolers on EVERY table for 3weeks straight!

For the first time ever I was tempted to play UB and take teh easy moniez but then common sense kicked in.......!

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10-09-2010 , 08:06 PM

Hallsy86

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 111

A few months ago I switched over to Cake for the rakeback. I previously played at PS and was not impressed at all with Cake's software (multi tabling was awful) and it usually took about an hour to get a seat on 12 tables.

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10-09-2010 , 08:09 PM

Fuzzball

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 642

Platinum star in 10 days at 10NL? How much do you play? I don't even hit platinum at 25NL playing 2k +/- hands 5 days a week.

If you're looking to make more though, I'd look to move up the limits rather than move sites.

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10-09-2010 , 08:10 PM

diamondKid

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 70

I see you on NL10 at stars all the time you seem to be doing pretty well, why don't you move up?

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10-09-2010 , 08:24 PM

LOLpokermon

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,767

traffic at cereus is directed heavily towards the bbj tables which kills you on rake

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10-10-2010 , 12:00 AM

Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

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Originally Posted by diamondKid

I see you on NL10 at stars all the time you seem to be doing pretty well, why don't you move up?

I just did today

and I am thinking maybe merge. I don't know, I really wanna move as a business move. I don't care about UB's past. I just wanna get the most $$$

ty and gl everyone

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10-10-2010 , 12:30 AM

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IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

Aren't the VPP/hand on PS ridic atm at lower stakes?

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10-10-2010 , 12:42 AM

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Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

ridic as in bad ridic or good ridic?

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10-10-2010 , 12:45 AM

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IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

ridic good

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...2010-a-887224/

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10-10-2010 , 12:47 AM

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Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

Platinum star plus the new VPP/hand still cannot compare to a flat rakeback deal on top of a loyalty program + rake race.

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10-22-2010 , 01:19 AM

#14

Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

bump :X

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10-22-2010 , 01:53 AM

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tbremer

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 509

doesnt platinum every month put you on track for SN, which = a lot of bonuses? have you looked at going SNE? idk, im no where near that sort of volume so i havent researched much - i guess throwing it out there incase you havent looked into it yet.

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10-22-2010 , 02:39 AM

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Exothermic

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,810

sub unless you switched to 6max & putting in insane hours your not getting platnium star in 10days come on now... btw anybody started to get less vpp's per hand?.. i remember getting 60vpp at 10nl every 1k hands now im only getting 80vpp per 1k hands @ 25nl whats up with that...

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10-22-2010 , 04:24 PM

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Sub-Zer0118

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,223

Playing 25NL 5k hands a day is about Platinum star in ~10-15 days full ring but okay.

And I started to late in the year to go for supernova.

What about Merge? 35% Rakeback, soft players and VIP. What Tier of their VIP program can I get?

Also, I might have to go lock poker because of the MAC software.

Last edited by Sub-Zer0118; 10-22-2010 at 04:45 PM.

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10-22-2010 , 05:54 PM

#18

Tapirboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,993

My instinct is that UB points are too hard to get at these levels to make it worthwhile, but I could be wrong.

I'd instead try to get a couple of nice signup bonuses somewhere (probably Cake) and go back to Stars at the end of the year to go for SN in 2011.

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10-22-2010 , 06:09 PM

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Exothermic

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,810

sub i think you should just stay at stars, in the long term it will be better, games are always there, 25nl is soft during the early afternoon and nitty at night, both fishy but different player types...

p.s... quick math 80vpp x 50= 4k vpp points, so you need 20 days to get platnium playing 5k hands a day

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10-22-2010 , 08:22 PM

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vlee89

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 848

Beyond their reputation which I won't waste time commenting on, I learned that you get NO time bank, and most tables only run at the BBJ tables, which means each pot can be raked an additional 50c.

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