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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
A9o is really the same as a7o and a5o? I always thought a9o is much stronger than a7 and a5 mainly because if its big ace vs small ace, bigger chance the kicker plays.
They are roughly the same hand vs typical calling ranges. e.g. If villain only calls with 77+, AT+, your kicker is pretty much irrelevant, since you're losing to every hand that calls. If he calls with QQ, then A9o has about 28.1% equity, A7o has more at 28.3% (because it can make some one-card straights that aren't blocked by queens), and A5o has the most at 29.79% (it can make a straight using both cards). If he calls with 88, then you'd rather have A9 (two overcards). If he calls with any ace, then A9 is clearly better than A7. Against the entire calling range (whatever it might be in a particular spot, but especially when it's a
tight calling range), the equities of A9, A7 and A5 will all be very close. But you don't want to get called. You're not shoving A7 or 86s for
value. You're trying to steal the blinds. Having some equity when called is the backup plan.
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Also do you believe 10bb vs 15bb is a huge difference when shoving say in the lojack position? Also 86s is a shove with 10bb on the button. But is it with 15bb? That is what i want to know.
Yes, there's a big difference between 15bb and 10bb. I'd estimate it to be about 5bb.
Study the charts. You should be able to see for yourself that there's not a lot of difference between a 9bb jamming range and a 10bb jamming range (both are pretty wide, especially in LP), but ranges are much tighter/stronger if you're making a (much) bigger shove from an earlier position.
I'll repeat, however, that even top players make shoving mistakes all the time, but the mistakes are somewhat marginal in terms of EV, because the profit (or loss) is measured in fractions of big blinds. Learning a 10bb jamming range will give you a decent idea of what a 12bb range will look like, but it's obviously going to be a terrible strategy to shove the same range if you have 30bb or 80bb.