Is it ever not correct to just flat call with no raisers when you're small blind before the flop? Even if you have 7-2 off suit, and there are a couple other callers, I would still call the bet preflop on the small blind because you're getting into the pot at a discounted rate. In other words, good pot and implied odds. Not sure if I worded this question correctly. Hopefully I did.

you should still fold.

Your worse position is a much bigger disadvantage and isn't compensated by your slight discount.

Meh, it's in between. If you have 4 limpers including the big blind, you are getting 9 to 1 on a call, which pretty much prices in any two cards. That's about what I need to be calling with the worst hands, but fewer callers than that and I'm folding. Opens up a bit for more playable hands, but usually I'm folding my small blind unless the odds are great.

if it's folded to you in the SB, you should almost never call. Calling is ok with a few limpers - I'll complete most suited hands, and I'll raise all the hands I'd normally raise with.

A good percentage of the time the BB will raise when it is limped around to them. So you:

[ ] Hit like a truck and stack someone.
[ ] Hit like a truck and win a 5-10BB pot.
[ ] Flop a weak pair or draw that you have to play OOP
[ ] Flop nothing OOP
[ ] Get raised by the BB.

Only one out of these five is desirable, just fold.

Use tracking software to see how you're doing from sb. If you always call, you'll find it's a big leak, I predict.

I massively improved my winrate by not completing the SB with garbage like K8, K9, J7, stuff like that. Doing this is one of the easiest ways to immediately see your winnings go up, trust us.

1 SB/orbit is massive?

Over time, yes. Not only that, but avoiding being OOP with marginal holdings can often save stacks.

Hmmm I just tried a session folding more small blinds than I usually would and I found mysef getting in a lot less marginal tough spots.

Another point to add to this is that a raise is often in order, if everyone folds to your SB, and it's just down to you and the BB, I find a raise is often in order, especially if your opponent is a bit of a tight player. If he calls, you can lead out to him on the flop with almost any set of 3 cards, taking the initiative right there, and often winning the pot, again depending on if your opponent caught cards or not.

Interesting idea that I may be leaking chips by "always" calling in this situation. I've just been doing it because I liked the pot odds and the discount.

Can you recommend a particular piece of software? I don't want to rely too much on statistics, but I suppose a nice HUD or something couldn't hurt my game.

Iv had HEM for the last couple of months.

They do a trial of about 15 days iirc so you should give it a go.

People say you shouln't need a HUD for micros and when I was only 2 tabling, yeah they had a point. I'm 6 tabling NL4 speed tables mainly now though and I doubt I would be showing a profit without my HUD.

It doesn't add up to much, you're missing an opportunity to flop a monster, and as for saving stacks, don't put your money in behind...

is probs equal to 1 or 2 bb/100 at micro's


plus u have to account for the fact u wont lose any money when u flop weak top pair or something and peel one on the flop only to fold the turn

But you don't know what's gonna come on the flop! Flop a boat, hate life imo.

One of the first things I noticed when I looked over my positional stats early on was how much money I was losing from the SB. I had this nasty habit of trying to steal the BB waaaaaaaay too much. I have no doubt that OPs winrate will improve when he cuts his SB range down to something tighter.