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11-07-2023 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert


Once i did all-in with AA i lost so from now im careful.

AA not always a winner. Poker is all skills but all luck too
You probably should not just automatically go all in yourself when you have AA. That is not because you don’t want to be all in with AA; you absolutely do. If you go all in with AA, but no other hand your opponents will catch on and fold when you go all in (they likely will do so most of the time regardless of which hands you go all in with).

A much better plan is to make a small raise with AA preflop as well as other hands. You should play AA, KK. AK, AQ, and other good hands the same way, with a small raise. That way you are not telegraphing what hand you might have when you raise. Your opponents will be more likely to call you when you have AA. If you are fortunate one might even reraise you. In that case reraise him right back. You want to get as much money as possible in the pot with AA preflop as you can. If he goes all in, then by all means call - don’t even think about folding at any point.

Poker is all skill, but only in the long run. Part of that skill is recognizing that getting money into the pot with AA is a good play, even if you wound up losing this hand. Any single hand of poker is luck dependent. That is why serious players have a dedicated poker bankroll - money only to be used for poker; no bill money, food money, rent money, etc. Most serious players will have at least 30-40 buyins in their bankroll. It is possible to play well and lose a whole bunch of money in the short run - that bankroll is to cover such losses. Over the long run, though, a winning player will see his bankroll increase. That is not luck dependent.
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11-09-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Last edited by GreenVert; 11-09-2023 at 05:10 PM.
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11-09-2023 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
Some split pots that you described aren't actually split pots because both people have the same hand - they are pots with 2 winners, one for the main pot and the other for what is called the side pot (some times there are multiple side pots).

This has to do with all-in situations and multiple players putting in chips.

Suppose you have 4000 chips, player B has 4000 chips and player C has 2000 chips. All the money goes in the pot, so there is a total of 10000 chips in the pot.

If you have the best hand, all 10000 chips go to you. But what if Player C has the best hand? He can't win 4000 from you, because he only bet 2000, so 2000 is the most he can get from any one player. Since you both put in 2000 to match him, he can win that much from each of you. So he will win 6000. What happens to the other 4000 that is in the pot? It becomes a side pot, and goes to the best hand between you and player B.

So if C has a flush and you have a straight and B has two pair - C gets 6000, you get 4000 and B gets 0.

Make sense but not fair cause the flush beats the straight and yes the straight beats the pair but when does the player win all the pot without sharing ? 🤔 in the other hands it’s cool everyone can win.
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11-09-2023 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
In the hands without the flush you got game 1 right, but messed up games 2 and 3 a bit. Game 2 you got the right result, it is a split, but you got the hands wrong. Both players have 7733Q for two pairs, not QT733. In game 3 you got the result wrong. They do not have the same hand. Player A has TTTTQ, which beats player B with TTTQQ - four of a kind vs full house.

If you were programming a computer to do this, you would have it check for the highest possible hand and then work its way down the hand rankings. That is, check for royal flush. No royal? Check for straight flush. No, then check for four of a kind, and so on until you find the hand you are checking for. That is the correct hand. You can implement this strategy when doing it yourself. For Hold em there are some shortcuts. If there are not three Broadway cards of the same suit on the board, a royal is not possible. Likewise if there are not three cards of the same suit that connect, a straight flush is impossible. If the board doesnÂ’t have three cards of one suit a flush is impossible.

Similarly if there are five different ranks on the board, four of a kind and full houses are not possible. Thus if you see suited boards, check for flushes. If the suited cards are connected check for straight flushes. If there is a pair on the board make sure to check for full houses and quads. Obviously that applies to boards with three of a rank as well. If there are four of a rank on the board we know the best hand will be four of a kind, you only have to compare kickers.

Just as an aside (and to show that this isnÂ’t only theoretical), probably the most unlikely hand I ever won came on a board like that. It was a live tourney and I got all in pre flop with AK vs an opponent with 77 (a perfectly standard play for both of us). Flop was 733 giving him a full house and making me almost dead. I was thinking only running aces or kings would help. The turn was not an ace or king, it was another 3. I actually stood up and started walking away from the table thinking I had no chance. Someone actually called me back and told me I won. I was shocked and honestly couldnÂ’t figure out how until I looked and saw the final 3 on the river. I had 3333A vs my opponent with 33337!
Thank you to rectify my mistake.

Amazing story 😲but if you walk away = you fold your card does it? don’t get me wrong i’m glad that someone call you back but you walk away does your game mean is over ?

Since i discovered the 5 bests cards now when i play I think about that and try to use this to see if i should keep going or not.
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11-09-2023 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
If you were both all in, you can only win 1089 of his chips.

Not all pot ? Okay … better than nothing
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11-09-2023 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
You probably should not just automatically go all in yourself when you have AA. That is not because you don’t want to be all in with AA; you absolutely do. If you go all in with AA, but no other hand your opponents will catch on and fold when you go all in (they likely will do so most of the time regardless of which hands you go all in with).

A much better plan is to make a small raise with AA preflop as well as other hands. You should play AA, KK. AK, AQ, and other good hands the same way, with a small raise. That way you are not telegraphing what hand you might have when you raise. Your opponents will be more likely to call you when you have AA. If you are fortunate one might even reraise you. In that case reraise him right back. You want to get as much money as possible in the pot with AA preflop as you can. If he goes all in, then by all means call - don’t even think about folding at any point.

Poker is all skill, but only in the long run. Part of that skill is recognizing that getting money into the pot with AA is a good play, even if you wound up losing this hand. Any single hand of poker is luck dependent. That is why serious players have a dedicated poker bankroll - money only to be used for poker; no bill money, food money, rent money, etc. Most serious players will have at least 30-40 buyins in their bankroll. It is possible to play well and lose a whole bunch of money in the short run - that bankroll is to cover such losses. Over the long run, though, a winning player will see his bankroll increase. That is not luck dependent.
Agree !
I did that at my beginning actually i just did like others player and after that i realize that AA it’s not always a winner so now i play wisely .
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11-09-2023 , 05:18 PM
Someone ask how much did i put it but i can’t find the message . I can’t remember and it was and still fake money.
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11-09-2023 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert
Someone ask how much did i put it but i can’t find the message . I can’t remember and it was and still fake money.
If you are playing for play money, then I applaud you. A lot of people will say you shouldn't play for play money, because it teaches you bad habits. There is truth to what they say, but play money is perfect for someone like you, who is just learning the game. It will help you understand about winning and losing hands, and how the play and the software works.

Once you feel like you understand the game play aspects, you will probably want to switch to real money games (I say probably, because not everyone does - some people are perfectly happy playing for fake chips - and there is nothing wrong with that). But you can't use the way people play in play money games to be any kind of model for how people play in real money games - even if the real money is very low. It is just different.

In a real money game, it is not uncommon for someone to raise a small amount preflop and have everyone fold.
In a play money game, it is not uncommon for 5 people to get all-in before the flop, and sometimes none of them even have a decent hand.

So before you switch to real money, you must try to get some instruction on strategy - what hands to play and how to play them. There are many books that can help, a million videos, and a lot of online articles. They won't all say exactly the same thing, but anything that is designed for beginners will have roughly the same advice.

Key things to look at - starting hand charts; position; and bet sizing. Obviously there are a lot of other things to learn, but until you feel comfortable with these fundamentals there is no need to try to learn more advanced concepts.

Good luck
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11-09-2023 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert
Thank you to rectify my mistake.

Amazing story 😲but if you walk away = you fold your card does it? don’t get me wrong i’m glad that someone call you back but you walk away does your game mean is over ?

Since i discovered the 5 bests cards now when i play I think about that and try to use this to see if i should keep going or not.
In a live casino, if you table a hand (that is turn both cards face up for the dealer and all players to clearly see), you cannot fold. If that tabled hand is the best hand, you win the pot. It didn’t matter that I had stood up and started walking, my hand was tabled so it was live. (This was a tournament all in, and by standard rules all players who are all in must table their hands before the dealer puts the rest of the cards out). There was no reason for a long delay in dealing the board, so I really didn’t have time to get far, but I certainly was convinced that I had lost and busted out.
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11-09-2023 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert
Make sense but not fair cause the flush beats the straight and yes the straight beats the pair but when does the player win all the pot without sharing ? 🤔 in the other hands itÂ’s cool everyone can win.
It is fair because player C did not risk the same amount of chips as players A and B did, so he should not be allowed to win the same amount of chips. Think about a real money game where player A and B have $300 and player C has only $20. Is it fair for player C to be able to win $300 from each opponent when he wins, but only lose $20 when he loses? Obviously not. That would give player C a big advantage over A and B since C risks $20 to possibly win $600 while A or B risk $300 to possibly win $320.

In this case the right, and most fair procedure is to put $20 from each player into a main pot - $60 total. Each player is risking the same amount, $20 and each stands to win the same amount, $60. The remaining $280 from players A and B goes to a separate pot that player C cannot win. A and B each risk $280 in this pot to win $560.

If one player is to win both pots, it must be A or B having the best hand. In practice, the side pot gets decided first. The player who loses between A and B obviously cannot have the best hand among A,B and C for the main pot, so the side pot loser is eliminated, and the main pot will be decided between the winner and player C.

Suppose A has a flush, B has a straight, and C has a pair. Then the side pot goes to A and Bs hand is killed (he canÂ’t win the main since he canÂ’t beat A). Since A has a better hand than C, A wins the main as well. If C instead had a full house, A would still win the side pot, but C would now win the main.

If you have multiple players with different stack sizes all going all in (as is common at play money tables), it can get pretty complex. There will be multiple side pots. It still is fair though in the sense that no player risks less than any other involved in any of the pots. The smallest stack will only be in the main pot. The second smallest only in the main and the first side pot, the third smallest in the main and first two side pots, and so on. Within each side pot (and the main) each player eligible to win will have contributed the same amount.
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11-12-2023 , 08:51 AM
Welcome to poker and this site! Most posters here want to help you learn and enjoy the game more! I'm really not sure what to add at this point but ..

1) Play chips are very good to help you learn to recognize poker 'spots' and how they play out without risk of real money. As others have indicated, you don't really see correct strategies applied when it comes to play chips .. so even if you are 'winning' you won't necessarily see the same wins with real money.

2) You can only win what you can put into the middle AND if your opponents can match it .. so if you have more (or less) than your opponents the pot must be 'made correct' before it can be awarded at Showdown.

3) If you table your hand you should receive any pot(s) where you have the best hand. But be aware that each room can have their own way of handling certain poker spots. Don't be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure and 'slow down' your decisions when playing in a different room than you normally play.

4) In No Limit you have 7 cards to use to make the best 5 card hand. IF YOU TABLE YOUR HAND the Dealer will assist you in making sure your best combination of cards is used to claim the pot(s) you are entered into .. including 'playing the Board', which means you are using all 5 cards in the middle and neither of the two in your holding.

Have fun .. most posters here are very willing to help if you are receptive to their thoughts .. GL
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11-14-2023 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
If you are playing for play money, then I applaud you. A lot of people will say you shouldn't play for play money, because it teaches you bad habits. There is truth to what they say, but play money is perfect for someone like you, who is just learning the game. It will help you understand about winning and losing hands, and how the play and the software works.

Once you feel like you understand the game play aspects, you will probably want to switch to real money games (I say probably, because not everyone does - some people are perfectly happy playing for fake chips - and there is nothing wrong with that). But you can't use the way people play in play money games to be any kind of model for how people play in real money games - even if the real money is very low. It is just different.

In a real money game, it is not uncommon for someone to raise a small amount preflop and have everyone fold.
In a play money game, it is not uncommon for 5 people to get all-in before the flop, and sometimes none of them even have a decent hand.

So before you switch to real money, you must try to get some instruction on strategy - what hands to play and how to play them. There are many books that can help, a million videos, and a lot of online articles. They won't all say exactly the same thing, but anything that is designed for beginners will have roughly the same advice.

Key things to look at - starting hand charts; position; and bet sizing. Obviously there are a lot of other things to learn, but until you feel comfortable with these fundamentals there is no need to try to learn more advanced concepts.

Good luck
Absolutely.

Playing with fake money helps me a lot to understand the game, the way I play and to overcome my fear.

When I trust my cards, of course, the game runs really smoothly.

Recently, learning the 5 best cards has helped me a lot.


About the book, i found one on pdf called ´The Mathematics of Poker’ quiet difficult to read it so for now i watch sometimes somme games online ´GoPoker’
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11-14-2023 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
In a live casino, if you table a hand (that is turn both cards face up for the dealer and all players to clearly see), you cannot fold. If that tabled hand is the best hand, you win the pot. It didn’t matter that I had stood up and started walking, my hand was tabled so it was live. (This was a tournament all in, and by standard rules all players who are all in must table their hands before the dealer puts the rest of the cards out). There was no reason for a long delay in dealing the board, so I really didn’t have time to get far, but I certainly was convinced that I had lost and busted out.
Oooh okay That’s a nice rules
No bluff all chances



Thanks for the clarification
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11-14-2023 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
It is fair because player C did not risk the same amount of chips as players A and B did, so he should not be allowed to win the same amount of chips. Think about a real money game where player A and B have $300 and player C has only $20. Is it fair for player C to be able to win $300 from each opponent when he wins, but only lose $20 when he loses? Obviously not. That would give player C a big advantage over A and B since C risks $20 to possibly win $600 while A or B risk $300 to possibly win $320.

In this case the right, and most fair procedure is to put $20 from each player into a main pot - $60 total. Each player is risking the same amount, $20 and each stands to win the same amount, $60. The remaining $280 from players A and B goes to a separate pot that player C cannot win. A and B each risk $280 in this pot to win $560.

If one player is to win both pots, it must be A or B having the best hand. In practice, the side pot gets decided first. The player who loses between A and B obviously cannot have the best hand among A,B and C for the main pot, so the side pot loser is eliminated, and the main pot will be decided between the winner and player C.

Suppose A has a flush, B has a straight, and C has a pair. Then the side pot goes to A and Bs hand is killed (he canÂ’t win the main since he canÂ’t beat A). Since A has a better hand than C, A wins the main as well. If C instead had a full house, A would still win the side pot, but C would now win the main.

If you have multiple players with different stack sizes all going all in (as is common at play money tables), it can get pretty complex. There will be multiple side pots. It still is fair though in the sense that no player risks less than any other involved in any of the pots. The smallest stack will only be in the main pot. The second smallest only in the main and the first side pot, the third smallest in the main and first two side pots, and so on. Within each side pot (and the main) each player eligible to win will have contributed the same amount.

Thank you for your answer.
Where did you learn all of this ?

So main pot is when there is only one winner or split the pot ?

Side pots when at least two have very good hands and they win the side pots but not the same amount ?

A4K86 The pot was 32k

Player 1: AQ >>>> AAKQ8 >>>> One pair AA>>>>> 29k
Player 2: 104>>>>AK14410>>>> One pair 44>>>> 3k

Do we call that a side pots ?
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11-14-2023 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Welcome to poker and this site! Most posters here want to help you learn and enjoy the game more! I'm really not sure what to add at this point but ..

1) Play chips are very good to help you learn to recognize poker 'spots' and how they play out without risk of real money. As others have indicated, you don't really see correct strategies applied when it comes to play chips .. so even if you are 'winning' you won't necessarily see the same wins with real money.

2) You can only win what you can put into the middle AND if your opponents can match it .. so if you have more (or less) than your opponents the pot must be 'made correct' before it can be awarded at Showdown.

3) If you table your hand you should receive any pot(s) where you have the best hand. But be aware that each room can have their own way of handling certain poker spots. Don't be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure and 'slow down' your decisions when playing in a different room than you normally play.

4) In No Limit you have 7 cards to use to make the best 5 card hand. IF YOU TABLE YOUR HAND the Dealer will assist you in making sure your best combination of cards is used to claim the pot(s) you are entered into .. including 'playing the Board', which means you are using all 5 cards in the middle and neither of the two in your holding.

Have fun .. most posters here are very willing to help if you are receptive to their thoughts .. GL
Thank you for the welcoming
I’m so amaze to see how much people know so well the poker rules.

1)I’m aware the game could very different from play to real money. I really want to see the difference but i prefer to wait a little bit.

2) When people are calling for the turn it’s start to be very challenging for me, depends of what i have of course but very challenging

3) Whatt do you mean by ´each room can have their own way of handling certain poker spots’ ?
Different rules ? Or are you talking about differents players and their styles ?
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11-14-2023 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert
Thank you for your answer.
Where did you learn all of this ?

So main pot is when there is only one winner or split the pot ?

Side pots when at least two have very good hands and they win the side pots but not the same amount ?

A4K86 The pot was 32k

Player 1: AQ >>>> AAKQ8 >>>> One pair AA>>>>> 29k
Player 2: 104>>>>AK14410>>>> One pair 44>>>> 3k

Do we call that a side pots ?
IÂ’m not sure I am understanding your example correctly. Are you saying that player 1 went all in for 29K and player 2 called the all in with a 3K stack? I will assume that is the case. In that case, technically, yea there is a side pot, but player 1 is the only player who can win that side pot. The main pot would contain 6K total chips, 3K from each player. The side pot would just be the remaining 26K chips from player 1Â’s bet. In practice these chips are just returned to player 1 since he is the only player in the side pot (assuming only player 2 calls his all in bet).

In this case player 1 winds up with all the chips (good for you- you got the hands right) since he has the better hand. Had the hands been reversed player 1 still gets his 26K chips back and player 2 would win the 6K from the main pot.

This illustrates very well an important concept in NL Holdem - effective stack size. Stack size is always an important factor in a hand, but often the size of your own stack is immaterial, such as would be the case here. It does not matter that player 1 has 29K in his stack. He cannot bet more than 3K - the smaller stack size of his opponent (he can bet more, but he canÂ’t win more since his opponent has only 3K). The effective stack in this spot is 3K, not the 29K that player 1 has.
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11-14-2023 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenVert
Thank you for the welcoming
IÂ’m so amaze to see how much people know so well the poker rules.

1)IÂ’m aware the game could very different from play to real money. I really want to see the difference but i prefer to wait a little bit.

2) When people are calling for the turn itÂ’s start to be very challenging for me, depends of what i have of course but very challenging

3) Whatt do you mean by ´each room can have their own way of handling certain poker spots’ ?
Different rules ? Or are you talking about differents players and their styles ?
If you play only online, rules variations probably are not significant, but in live poker rooms there can be differences in the rules from room to room. The mechanics of live play add a dimension not really present online, and most of these differences relate to those mechanics. The basic game rules (hand ranks, betting rounds preflop, flop, turn, and river, and such) donÂ’t really vary. The rules regarding how player actions are handled might though.

Even some of these mechanics type rules will not vary. For example I am pretty sure you will never find a poker room that allows string bets or raises. This refers to actions like you sometimes see in movies depicting poker games like “I’ll see your 20 and raise you 50.” If you said something like that at an actual live table, you have called 20; you will not be allowed to raise the 50. All bets must be made in a single motion moving all chips together into the betting area (or with a single clear verbal declaration). I the example above, silently pushing 70 in chips into the betting area or stating raise to 70 would be the legal way to make the raise. The verbal I gave above or pushing 20 then attempting to push 50 more would be a strong raise and not allowed.

A good example of something that does vary is what exactly constitutes a bet. In all rooms verbal declarations are binding. So if you say “fifty” you have bet $50. However many players prefer to not make verbal declarations but rather to silently move chips into the betting area when making a bet. Here is where there is some difference between rooms. Most rooms use a coward motion rule - any chips taken from your stack and moved toward the center of the table are considered to have been bet. There still are some rooms though that use a hard betting line rule. There is a line on the table in front of all players - any chips crossing the line are bet, any remaining behind the line are not part of a bet.

The latter rule is uncommon now BTW because it is problematic in that it allows for unscrupulous players to make a play where they try to mislead opponents into thinking they bet when they have not. A “pump fake” with a stack of chips, where a player moves a stack of chips toward the center of the table, but not across the line can be misinterpreted as a bet by an opponent. If that opponent starts putting together chips for a bet or raise before the player actually officially bets, the player will often just check instead, knowing now that his opponent likely has a strong hand. The forward motion rule eliminates this possible angle - the “pump fake” is now treated as an actual bet and the player cannot change his action based on how his opponent reacts.
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11-14-2023 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
Most rooms use a coward motion rule -
Normally I would never correct someone's spelling, but since we are trying to help a beginner, and he might be confused by this - the term is "forward motion" not coward motion. I'm guessing there was an autocorrect thing in play that was really auto-incorrect.
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11-14-2023 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
Normally I would never correct someone's spelling, but since we are trying to help a beginner, and he might be confused by this - the term is "forward motion" not coward motion. I'm guessing there was an autocorrect thing in play that was really auto-incorrect.
Yes. It was the dreaded “auto incorrect”. Certainly I meant FORWARD motion
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11-15-2023 , 09:52 AM
I think a coward motion rule would be interesting.
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11-15-2023 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I think a coward motion rule would be interesting.
I believe this is when someone tanks on the river, and finally calls with the 2nd nuts.
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12-06-2023 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
IÂ’m not sure I am understanding your example correctly. Are you saying that player 1 went all in for 29K and player 2 called the all in with a 3K stack? I will assume that is the case. In that case, technically, yea there is a side pot, but player 1 is the only player who can win that side pot. The main pot would contain 6K total chips, 3K from each player. The side pot would just be the remaining 26K chips from player 1Â’s bet. In practice these chips are just returned to player 1 since he is the only player in the side pot (assuming only player 2 calls his all in bet).

In this case player 1 winds up with all the chips (good for you- you got the hands right) since he has the better hand. Had the hands been reversed player 1 still gets his 26K chips back and player 2 would win the 6K from the main pot.

This illustrates very well an important concept in NL Holdem - effective stack size. Stack size is always an important factor in a hand, but often the size of your own stack is immaterial, such as would be the case here. It does not matter that player 1 has 29K in his stack. He cannot bet more than 3K - the smaller stack size of his opponent (he can bet more, but he canÂ’t win more since his opponent has only 3K). The effective stack in this spot is 3K, not the 29K that player 1 has.
Sorry for my late answer.

The player 1 won 29k from the pot and the rest were given to player 2.
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12-06-2023 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
If you play only online, rules variations probably are not significant, but in live poker rooms there can be differences in the rules from room to room. The mechanics of live play add a dimension not really present online, and most of these differences relate to those mechanics. The basic game rules (hand ranks, betting rounds preflop, flop, turn, and river, and such) donÂ’t really vary. The rules regarding how player actions are handled might though.

Even some of these mechanics type rules will not vary. For example I am pretty sure you will never find a poker room that allows string bets or raises. This refers to actions like you sometimes see in movies depicting poker games like “I’ll see your 20 and raise you 50.” If you said something like that at an actual live table, you have called 20; you will not be allowed to raise the 50. All bets must be made in a single motion moving all chips together into the betting area (or with a single clear verbal declaration). I the example above, silently pushing 70 in chips into the betting area or stating raise to 70 would be the legal way to make the raise. The verbal I gave above or pushing 20 then attempting to push 50 more would be a strong raise and not allowed.

A good example of something that does vary is what exactly constitutes a bet. In all rooms verbal declarations are binding. So if you say “fifty” you have bet $50. However many players prefer to not make verbal declarations but rather to silently move chips into the betting area when making a bet. Here is where there is some difference between rooms. Most rooms use a coward motion rule - any chips taken from your stack and moved toward the center of the table are considered to have been bet. There still are some rooms though that use a hard betting line rule. There is a line on the table in front of all players - any chips crossing the line are bet, any remaining behind the line are not part of a bet.

The latter rule is uncommon now BTW because it is problematic in that it allows for unscrupulous players to make a play where they try to mislead opponents into thinking they bet when they have not. A “pump fake” with a stack of chips, where a player moves a stack of chips toward the center of the table, but not across the line can be misinterpreted as a bet by an opponent. If that opponent starts putting together chips for a bet or raise before the player actually officially bets, the player will often just check instead, knowing now that his opponent likely has a strong hand. The forward motion rule eliminates this possible angle - the “pump fake” is now treated as an actual bet and the player cannot change his action based on how his opponent reacts.

That's why I can't wait to play for real, because online poker is a jungle. Some players play to win, not to play. Of course, the aim is to win, but personally, you have to be a good/“correct” player to play and not go all-in every time ><
I try to play online as I would for real.

If one day i have the chance to play in room I’ll remember what you wrote
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12-06-2023 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
Normally I would never correct someone's spelling, but since we are trying to help a beginner, and he might be confused by this - the term is "forward motion" not coward motion. I'm guessing there was an autocorrect thing in play that was really auto-incorrect.

LOL i really thought coward motion was an expression used in poker haha. Thanks
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