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02-22-2010 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by boydy19
you'll go bust if you play 5% stt.
Bust playing a one table sng for 5% of my BR? I think you're wrong there, so if you could please explain the bust scenario I'd love to hear it.

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Originally Posted by BlaneH
Oh boy. So basically you wanna be forced to pay bigger blinds and win the same as playing 5nl? Ooooooooook.
I took a shot moving up and understand what you're saying. Shortstacking 20BB isn't too terrible with one 9-handed table. I like to mix it up for a small amount of risk here and there, it's not something I live and die by.
02-22-2010 , 10:16 PM
But you aren't getting anything out of your risk.

Your 5% br for sngs is fine if you stick to it.. but if you tilt or get stubborn and try and stay at a certain level... a 20 buyin downswing isn't uncommon at all.
02-22-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ivegotstylekid
Bust playing a one table sng for 5% of my BR? I think you're wrong there, so if you could please explain the bust scenario I'd love to hear it.



l amount of risk here and there, it's not something I live and die by.
OFC i didn't mean you'll literally go bust in 1 table. Heck you didn't mention you were playing 1 table SNG. I assumed you were playing a few tables as 1 table sng is extremely boring.

I'll assume with 5% your gonna be playing roughly 10 dollar buy in, you said your br was 170 IIRC. So slightly over but your a degen.

I jst hope you can keep it together if you go on a streak of no cashing coz even playing 1 table big swings happen.
02-23-2010 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jetakayao
sigh. BR = $380. don't know how I can get off this damn plateau
its all in your mind
02-23-2010 , 03:36 AM
Hey Ice, could you find me the thread for setting up sweats? All I can find is like $109r sweats and micro 6max ones. I wanna find a FR 10NL'er or a FR 5NL'er an sweat them.
02-23-2010 , 05:12 AM
Hand ranking charts are wrong. I'm sure two pair must be a worse hand than one pair....
02-23-2010 , 06:29 AM
So:

I need 165 VPP's over the next 5 days to get silverstar

Unfortunately FTP has tempted me back to bonus whoring the $100 Bonus they are offering - So I may not necessarily reach silverstar this month

Bankroll: $930 PS
$59 FTP

I've been playing 5nl rush (4 Tables) and its been relatively good on me - though I've had my fair share of coolers =\
02-23-2010 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rocaerix
Hand ranking charts are wrong. I'm sure two pair must be a worse hand than one pair....
if this is the case you are probably over playing them a bit.
02-23-2010 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
if this is the case you are probably over playing them a bit.
All vs very fishy opponents this session.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $17.60
CO: $2.00
Hero (BTN): $11.50
SB: $10.50
BB: $8.85

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 7 4 T (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

River: ($4.75) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Final Pot: $8.75
Hero shows T 9 (two pair, Tens and Nines)
BB shows T Q (two pair, Queens and Tens)
BB wins $8.35
(Rake: $0.40)

That one is obviously just cooler. But it seems like two pair always gets over two paired or out drawn waaaay too often.


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $4.70
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $6.40

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 3 A
Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 6 A 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.70) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB calls $1.30

River: ($4.30) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $4.30
Hero mucks 3 A
SB shows J Q (a flush, Ace high)
SB wins $4.10
(Rake: $0.20)

(PS getting frustrated at betting for protection when flush gets there against fish since they only ever seem to call when they have it. I don't want to turn weak tight and just give up when any draw gets there...)

I think this last one is a bit of spew, looking back I dont know what I beat. I thought maybe trapping with a big ace was a possibility.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $10.40
BB: $9.75
UTG: $23.40
Hero (MP): $11.00
CO: $9.65
BTN: $5.55

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with T J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) T 9 A (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.20) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO folds

River: ($2.20) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BTN raises to $4.70 all in, Hero calls $3.70

Final Pot: $11.60
Hero shows T J (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
BTN shows Q K (a straight, Ten to Ace)
BTN wins $11.05
(Rake: $0.55)


Not classical two pair, but this hand happened while typing.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $11.30
SB: $23.40
Hero (BB): $13.05
UTG: $9.40
CO: $10.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 7 7
1 fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) 5 3 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.10) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, CO calls $1

River: ($4.10) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $4.10
Hero shows 7 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
CO shows 9 T (two pair, Tens and Fives)
CO wins $3.90
(Rake: $0.20)

I run hot .
02-23-2010 , 07:13 AM
hand 1 if you are going to raise the turn you gotta go a little bigger(2.50) because if you don't ever get a fold there wasn't much point in making the raise.

hand 2 just pot the flop cause donkeys with draws are calling no matter what anyway. if your read is that he continues when he hits than just shutdown and valuetown him next time it's appropriate.

hand 3 might be able to find a fold but against a donk it's a cooler. (the river reraise kinda sucks tho it's usually pretty strong especially if it looks like the guy notices you only show up with good hands.)

hand 4 .50 is a pretty weak flop bet I'd be tempted to raise that, and barrel the 4, definately make a note it's a profitable tell

Last edited by Blind2itAll; 02-23-2010 at 07:28 AM.
02-23-2010 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
hand 1 if you are going to raise the turn you gotta go a little bigger(2.50) because if you don't ever get a fold there wasn't much point in making the raise.
Looking over HH again I would have raised probably to $2. Why do I need fold equity when I'm ahead of a huge amount of his calling range?

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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
hand 2 just pot the flop cause donkeys with draws are calling no matter what anyway.
Yeah agreed, need stop betting any fractions of pot in limped pots like this. Still betting turn?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
hand 3 might be able to find a fold but against a donk it's a cooler. (the river reraise kinda sucks tho it's usually pretty strong especially if it looks like the guy notices you show up with good hands.)
This villian is the same one as in hand 4, based on that I don't think he's noticing much at all. I was putting this down as the least coolerish of the four.

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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
hand 4 .50 is a pretty weak flop bet I'd be tempted to raise that, definately make a note it's a profitable tell
I was definitely considering raising flop. I get SUPER confused by this (and similar) donk because it makes soooo little sense. Whereas second bet like that makes it more obvious he doesn't have a great hand. Making reads with underpairs that they are chasing a draw and double barrelling turn only to have them chase and catch a higher pair just crushes me on a regular basis .
02-23-2010 , 07:35 AM
I added the comment about the spade turn, it's mostly read dependent but if you know this guy doesn't take control unless he's hit you can just let them go...

with 2p we don't really need a fold although winning money with no chance of loss is always good, but my point was...since he already bet, we want to charge him more for the times he decides to continue and possibly hits his better hand later, if you make the raise so small he's kinda priced in and you are bound to hit those coolers more often

hand 1 looks like a betting tell too after rereading it betting less than 1/3 on the turn for donkeys is a weak bet they make while trying not to look weak.
02-23-2010 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
I added the comment about the spade turn, it's mostly read dependent but if you know this guy doesn't take control unless he's hit you can just let them go...

with 2p we don't really need a fold although winning money with no chance of loss is always good, but my point was...since he already bet, we want to charge him more for the times he decides to continue and possibly hits his better hand later, if you make the raise so small he's kinda priced in and you are bound to hit those coolers more often
Yeah, Ill basically always bet turn if the obvious draw hits if checked to me. Note down players who do this with very strong made draws obviously. Then just facepalm and check behind later.

Hmm good point. he did donk into me after I PFR and bet again on turn so he basically always has something he wants to continue with so I should be charging him more if he wants to continue when my hand is better than his.
02-23-2010 , 08:36 AM

      
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