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01-27-2010 , 11:14 PM
I like them. Im trying to add more tables to increase my $/hour. Still 8 tabling tho.
01-27-2010 , 11:46 PM
just a suggestion... don't try to hero call me when I've clearly set up my bets to get you in on the river.... it won't work well for you.. kthx


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $22.70
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $27.50
BTN: $18.55
SB: $10.80
BB: $13.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with K Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) T 6 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB folds, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.80) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.10, BB calls $2.10

River: ($7.00) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.70 all in, BB calls $6.70

Final Pot: $20.40
Hero shows K Q (a flush, King high)
BB shows 9 T (a pair of Tens)
Hero wins $19.40
(Rake: $1.00)
01-28-2010 , 12:11 AM
Wow I just looked at a thread, and it would take about 75k hands at 10NL a month to reach goldstar vip status. That's pretty crazy considering I only 9 table about 2 hrs a day.
01-28-2010 , 03:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
just a suggestion... don't try to hero call me when I've clearly set up my bets to get you in on the river.... it won't work well for you.. kthx
Sorry I thought you were bluffing
01-28-2010 , 06:51 AM
Been (kinda) long time since I've last posted. That's because I was busy with exams and I notice that whenever I have exams I play like ****. So now that's over I've been playing and doing okay-ish, winning at 5BB/100. It feels good just to hop on whenever you feel like and play a session without any worries.



That spike in the middle was some sick variance... I'm also running a buyin above EV but that's because some droolers keep calling my 3bets with 96o and flop two pair against my TPTK and I keep sucking out on them, heh. Feels good.

Anyone want to talk about pokers on skype by the way? I'm playing 5NL at the moment, but was up to 25 and doing okay when I cashed out majority of my $.
01-28-2010 , 07:35 AM
Crosspost:

HUSnGs are so weird. I just had a 198 game session. Pretty sick. Now I have an hour to finish my essay. Oh well, it's not assessed.



Ship the 7.2% Skalansky RoI, 10.9 so far this year.

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$55.00+$2.50

Stacks:
Hero (2,360)
BB (640)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-Flop: (45, 2 players) Hero is SB 9 A
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 30

Flop: 7 K J (120, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 4 (120, 2 players)
BB bets 60, Hero calls 60

River: 9 (240, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 150, BB calls 150

Final Pot: 540
BB shows
Q 9
Hero shows a pair of Nines
9 A

Hero wins 540 (net +270)

BB lost 270


No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$55.00+$2.50

Stacks:
Hero (620)
BB (2,380)

Blinds: 25/50

Pre-Flop: (75, 2 players) Hero is SB 6 8
Hero raises to 100, BB calls 50

Flop: 4 A 5 (200, 2 players)
BB bets 100, Hero calls 100

Turn: 4 (400, 2 players)
BB bets 150, Hero goes all-in 420, BB folds

Final Pot: 970

Hero wins 970 (net +350)

BB lost 350


Super-Standard, You-Massacred-That-Hand, You-Were-Bluffing-With-The-Best Hand, Day at the office, blah blah blah.
01-28-2010 , 08:45 AM
I started rebuiling my bankroll one week ago with 95$

Today (one week later) I have 153$, I just play NL5 by now. As soon as I get 200$ I'm gonna start taking some shots in nl10



I had a huge swing between 2k and 3k hands, almost 10 buy ins down in 1 day

I usually track my progress in my poker blog: http://the-restart.blogspot.com
01-28-2010 , 08:58 AM
Yesterday was the official tiltday of 2k10. Played so bad and ran worse that its not even funny anymore.
KK vs AA 3 times out of which one was soo obvious but i was playing too many tables to notice the donk abc of playing aces



Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 503647
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP: $9.70
CO: $13.05
BTN: $8.70
SB: $2.35
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.55

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10 all in, BTN calls $7.70 all in

Flop: ($17.60) Q 3 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($17.60) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($17.60) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

EDIT: He had aces, i failed with converting
That 4b shove is waay too much right? limp small rr is like 95% aces but ofc i did not pay attention.

Here is another example of how yesterday went.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 503642
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $14.00
BTN: $10.85
SB: $10.05
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.10
MP: $8.80

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T T
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65) K T 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.50, MP calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.65) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50

River: ($4.65) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.80, MP raises to $6.60 all in, Hero calls $3.80

EDIT: Final Pot: $17.85
Hero shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
MP shows J Q (a straight, Nine to King)
MP wins $17.00
(Rake: $0.85)

Yes not 3betting that is just awful. isolate isolate.

On a better note today has been better. 2 sessions both up +$6

That makes a total of
BR:$209 (-$40+$6+$6)

Conclusion: Cutting down in tables, focusing in making the right plays more than being a FPP pro

Last edited by Leikman; 01-28-2010 at 09:04 AM.
01-28-2010 , 09:07 AM
Quote:
I love the smell of spew in the morning... The smell, you know (that smell)... Smells like....victory"
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01-28-2010 , 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leikman
Couple of hands
Well played on both hands. Just unlucky. You don't fold KK pre ever basically. There was no way you were getting away from that hand on basically any street and you never know with bad players, limp raise can be a bunch of random junk if you have been raising a lot. They do the old "he can't have KK every time!" with ATs and stuff.

Hand two also well played. Folding there would have been super nitty. There are a lot of two pair hands that would also be raising there. See micros forums, there was a sticky "never fold a set".

Cutting down on the tables and focussing on playing better is never a bad idea though.
01-28-2010 , 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
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<3 House
01-28-2010 , 09:50 AM
That was a paraphrase from apocalypse now... the famous I love the smell of napalm in the morning quote.


..but I too <3 House
01-28-2010 , 09:53 AM
Oh, he says something like that too in one episode lol.
01-28-2010 , 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leikman
Yes not 3betting that is just awful. isolate isolate.
Flatting is totally fine and may actually be better than 3-betting.

The mistake is that once MP folds and you're alone in the hand with CO you're missing a TON of value by not sizing your bets so that after you raise flop you're able to bet turn/jam river. Villain is likely calling a ton of river shoves, will put more money in with a lot of draws on flop and turn, and isn't ever going to be raising river for value light.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocaerix
Hand two also well played. Folding there would have been super nitty. There are a lot of two pair hands that would also be raising there. See micros forums, there was a sticky "never fold a set".
This is one of the most common leaks I see among the beginner forum regulars: not squeezing enough value out of hands. The hand isn't played terribly, but there was money left on the table there.

On a side note, I've dusted off the old Stars account and am going to do a bankroll build there from $150 starting with 5NL. My regular game is 50NL on Cake. First 5k hands:



Took a few K hands to adjust : ).

Last edited by miserablee; 01-28-2010 at 10:13 AM.
01-28-2010 , 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miserablee
This is one of the most common leaks I see among the beginner forum regulars: not squeezing enough value out of hands. The hand isn't played terribly, but there was money left on the table there.
He got raised all in on the river. Which street should he have bet / raised more on? Maybe bet more on river but that'd be very villian dependent. $4 or slightly bigger and get called by strong kings or two pair.
01-28-2010 , 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocaerix
He got raised all in on the river. Which street should he have bet / raised more on? Maybe bet more on river but that'd be very villian dependent. $4 or slightly bigger and get called by strong kings or two pair.
If we raise to .8 on the flop the pot is 2.25 on the turn, then betting 2 on the turn leaves us with a nice pot sized shove on the river.

I'd be surprised if villains river raising range was wider than 88/K9/KT/QJ, and it may just be 88/QJ, but that's not really what I'm worried about here. What is important is that we need to be trying to get all the money in ourselves when villain has a hand which is strong enough in his eyes to call down but not raise river.

I'll take a bit to write up a little article to show how much value is missed in not trying to get the money all-in ourselves later today if you like.
01-28-2010 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miserablee
If we raise to .8 on the flop the pot is 2.25 on the turn, then betting 2 on the turn leaves us with a nice pot sized shove on the river.

I'd be surprised if villains river raising range was wider than 88/K9/KT/QJ, and it may just be 88/QJ, but that's not really what I'm worried about here. What is important is that we need to be trying to get all the money in ourselves when villain has a hand which is strong enough in his eyes to call down but not raise river.

I'll take a bit to write up a little article to show how much value is missed in not trying to get the money all-in ourselves later today if you like.
Fair call. I'm really bad at this myself as well and end up seemingly playing "pot control" with very strong hands just so I get paid off, which is a horrible idea. I should remind myself more that the only hands that will be paying us off big are big hands so we can bet big and charge draws a lot if thats the case, much better than being drawn out on.

I find raising over min bets and donks really difficult to size. Generally if its a decent sized bet and I'm going to raise its simply like 3x their bet or raise pot size or raise so I can get their stacks in easily. Over tiny bets I just get stuck trying to figure out weather i should just bet as if they didn't bother at all or raise big because they will call it off and would bet similar to shown (although I'd probably raise to 0.6 or 0.7, around size of total pot).

My bet/raise sizing and where/when I should be betting is something I really need to work on as well. Anything you can add to help would be much appreciated.
01-28-2010 , 01:27 PM
it's been a while since I've posted.
can't get anything going on tilt, would like to play micro sng's but they don't have any.
br-.91


stars- been loving their mirco sng's, I've been playing them fairly well, took a bit of a dip when I first moved up in stakes but I'm just over $22 atm. I'll take shots at some $1.20 mtt sng's when I'm around $30-35. Until then I'll continue to run .25 45,90-man as well as .10 360 sngs with some occasional DON turbos
01-28-2010 , 01:28 PM
forgot to mention I've also been running pretty sick at the .01/.02 nl tables. Usually throw about 3 or 4 cash game tables in with all my MTT sng's
01-28-2010 , 01:39 PM
BR: ~$150

I'm determined to get to $200 and start incorporating the next level .05/.1 into my game by the end of this weekend!!!
01-28-2010 , 01:45 PM
Leikman, I'm going to change your name to LEAKman, if you don't mind. Ha JK. At least both villains were below $9 in chips, you saved 20+ big blinds from that alone, because there's no way your getting away from the Kings, and calling his river shove in hand #2 is pretty standard. Maybe try FR? You seem to be missing a lot my multi tabling and trying to collect VPPs, so switch over to FR and you can still run all them tables and not miss as much. When I was a 6max guy, I'd play no more than 6 tables, but at FR I can get in 9-12 at once. Idk, just a thought GL sir.

ivegotstyle, did you say .91 cents? If you want to swap a few dollars from stars to FTP, let me know. I have like $153 on FT that's just sitting there, and I've been grinding on stars since the new year. So if you or anyone is interested, let me know. Please don't PM me about it, I've read that's where the shady deals take place so..

Last edited by SchererBoy; 01-28-2010 at 01:52 PM.
01-28-2010 , 07:32 PM
Todays Report:
$127.15 (+2.80)

32 $1 DON's played, 7.95% ROI
01-28-2010 , 08:29 PM
OK...

So I got home, did what I usualy do, start 10 tables, this time $0.02/$0.05

I expected to win, unfortunately it didn't work that way. Every flopped set was met with folds, every top pair top kicker was humiliated by straights or flushed.

So... What to do if you're playing for 2 hours already and only have losses to show ?

You move up stakes of course, remembering that one time 2 weeks ago when you took a shot and doubled up and left quickly.

So... The NL5 tables that emptied were quickly replaced with NL25 ones as the beers felt better and better, up to a moment when you think "what the fuuuuuuu I have a $200 bankroll and $150 is on tables now".

At least there they respect my raises instead of just calling and rivering a better hand.


Last edited by RNauta; 01-28-2010 at 08:36 PM.
01-28-2010 , 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNauta
OK...

So I got home, did what I usualy do, start 10 tables, this time $0.02/$0.05

I expected to win, unfortunately it didn't work that way. Every flopped set was met with folds, every top pair top kicker was humiliated by straights or flushed.

So... What to do if you're playing for 2 hours already and only have losses to show ?

You move up stakes of course, remembering that one time 2 weeks ago when you took a shot and doubled up and left quickly.

So... The NL5 tables that emptied were quickly replaced with NL25 ones as the beers felt better and better, up to a moment when you think "what the fuuuuuuu I have a $200 bankroll and $150 is on tables now".

At least there they respect my raises instead of just calling and rivering a better hand.

dont be scared, thats what i usually do at those stakes, put my whole bankroll over 6-12 tables, its a quick way of increasing your bankroll. of course the other side isnt pretty but think happy thoughts =P
01-28-2010 , 09:01 PM
**** Cash Games

      
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