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01-24-2010 , 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverbust
Hey everyone,

I know I am late getting into this thread but here it is for my goal for this yr.

BR: $60 Start - Currently $190
Site: Stars

I initially started grinding the 3.40 18 and 45 man sngs and have since switched to the 6.50 6 mans. I am operating on a 40 buy in minimum for the 18/45 man and a 25 buy in min for the 6 mans

I am pushing for silverstar this week. I am 350 vpps off and collecting 35-55 a day. Hoping I can make it. I am going to run up my br as high as i can get it hope to be stepping up to the $13 6 mans in a few weeks.
never too late! glgl man.. just know that the 45's can have some siiick downswings, and those 40 buyins can be gone quick.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerz
So I'm about 300VPP from making platinum star but i'm moving back to FTP. Kinda stupid to move now based on my decision but I'm going to see if I can build a bankroll from $25 on FTP. I became hyper aggressive and loose at 100NL. I withdrew a large amount from Stars and almost busted the rest. I'm not gonna be doin the rush poker thing, I'll be 6 tabling.

See yall around, time to go down a few brewskis

Bankroll $3000---> $25

I can crush Stars micro stakes but I tried to beat 2NL at FTP a year ago and lost lol.
gl2u also.. I hope ftp turns around for you

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaneH
BR-261

Bleh. Didnt unlock my stellar reward. Didn't have any hands. Knew the downswing was coming so not really bummed. Basically lost a buy-in bad cbets, blinds and whiffing on flops. Missed every flush draw too
I know you've been beat down a lot at 10nl.. and I'm sure it was just said in jest... but don't let it creep into your head about knowing that downswings were coming.... positive thinking sounds stupid, but people are surprised that it really can have an impact on poker/health/life.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Creg
Hey guys great thread, ive been reading it for a while but now want to get involved.
I currently play a mix of 8 tables of 10nl or 4tables of 25nl.
Bankroll currently $680.
Would like to make the step up to consistantly beat the 25nl games in the near future.



GL at the tables all!
nice..but wtf happened at 11,900?
01-24-2010 , 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf


nice..but wtf happened at 11,900?
haha, that would be some 25nl. KK<AA, set of 8's < set of 10's. hands played themselves.
01-24-2010 , 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creg
haha, that would be some 25nl. KK<AA, set of 8's < set of 10's. hands played themselves.
What were the hands that were quick back to normal or did you win one lose the other?
01-24-2010 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rocaerix
What were the hands that were quick back to normal or did you win one lose the other?
hand1: 66 on a Q6J board. turn Q he shoved with KJ.
hand2: JJ on B, raised. BB 3bet i shoved. He had AK, i held.
Definately wrong play, but i was pretty pissed off losing two stacks quickly.

Last edited by Creg; 01-24-2010 at 11:06 AM. Reason: edit
01-24-2010 , 11:41 AM
im joining this now been putting it off for weeks at the start of the year my bankroll was $500 which i built from $30 but after gettin sick of the grind i took a shot at a ton of tourneys and im now down to $50

my plan 12 table 2nl move up when i have 20 buy ins for the next level

objective is to be semi reg at 25nl by the end of the year
01-24-2010 , 12:07 PM
My first 25 k hands ever of online poker
01-24-2010 , 12:35 PM
congratulations! there's not many making break-even - or slightly winning by their first try.
should be fun to watch you advance through the limits.
01-24-2010 , 01:02 PM
Self-reminder: never post a graph when you run good.

As a result: $175->$80
01-24-2010 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Djevelen
Self-reminder: never post a graph when you run good.

As a result: $175->$80
nor cut down from the stop-loss
01-24-2010 , 01:07 PM
Can i run any worse?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $32.60
UTG: $40.50
Hero (MP): $47.40
CO: $26.10
BTN: $25.00
SB: $25.40

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 8 8
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 6 8 4 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB folds, UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $46.65 all in, UTG calls $18.75 all in

Turn: ($82.00) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($82.00) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)
01-24-2010 , 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enprinte
Full tilt is rigged

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $34.26
UTG: $25.35
MP: $25.35
CO: $40.74
BTN: $30.42
Hero (SB): $26.34

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with
Spoiler:
K A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($6.85) 3 3 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.00, Hero raises to $23.34, BB calls $18.34

Turn: ($53.53) A (2 players)

River: ($53.53) A (2 players)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $53.53
BB shows 7c 7s
Hero shows Kc As
Hero wins $50.86

[x] FTP is rigged
[x] In my favor
[x] .7% equity, not even 1% lol. wtf call 7s to a 3bet?
(Rake: $2.67)



i think i deserved this after the previous hand.


Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.54
CO: $6.19
Hero (BTN): $3.56
SB: $4.79

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is BTN with 7 9
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.35) 9 9 Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.35) 7 (2 players)
CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

River: ($0.85) J (2 players)
CO bets $0.54, Hero raises to $1.45, CO raises to $2.36, Hero raises to $3.16, CO calls $0.80

Final Pot: $7.17
CO shows J J
Hero shows 7 9
CO wins $6.70
(Rake: $0.47)
after like 10 mins of 5nl, i had to move up

Last edited by Boxerz; 01-24-2010 at 01:21 PM.
01-24-2010 , 02:20 PM
Bankroll - $110.

How can I be so bad at 5nl? Could this be I'm running bad? It certainly feels like it. I don't feel tilted when I play, each session I seem to get a few coolers. I honestly feel at the moment like I'm getting my ass completely wooped at this level, but I think that might be R.O.T.

Either way, I'm going to re-evaluate at $100. May consider cashing out for the only reason that Poker means a lot to me, I think about it all of the time but it's not doing me any good if I'm just going to lose money from it. I don't play it just for fun, I play to aim to make money but it's just not happening. I could do with the spare cash at the moment.
01-24-2010 , 02:29 PM
804-->650--->cashout 180--->back to 650
My hourly this year is 2.25 lol so sick.
2010 goal is to make 40k, doable?

I'm taking down Sunday 1/4 Million
01-24-2010 , 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mamahalili
804-->650--->cashout 180--->back to 650
My hourly this year is 2.25 lol so sick.
2010 goal is to make 40k, doable?

I'm taking down Sunday 1/4 Million
in your dreams
01-24-2010 , 03:20 PM
Boxerz, did you jump right to 25NL with the $25 you put on FT? It's funny the first post you have after you say your moving sites is a 25NL hand haha.

Anyone else playing in the $30k FreeRoll on FT today through RTR? If so let me know.
01-24-2010 , 03:31 PM
had to make some adjustments when moving from 2nl to 5nl. There actually are a bunch of differences. From what I've gathered people are much more likely to raise your blind steals and float flops. 2nl was seriously just the doldrums
01-24-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IamPro
in your dreams
well if I can somehow move up to 100 or even 200nl by summer, I don't see why not?
01-24-2010 , 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Boxerz, did you jump right to 25NL with the $25 you put on FT? It's funny the first post you have after you say your moving sites is a 25NL hand haha.

Anyone else playing in the $30k FreeRoll on FT today through RTR? If so let me know.
i played 5nl for a couple hundred of hands. realized i had a couple hundred in my wallet from 200-300 live winnings so i was like **** 5nl, wasting my time here, moved the rest from stars
01-24-2010 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rocaerix
Do you get away from any of these?

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A A
3 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) Q 2 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.40) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $8.25 all in, Hero calls $4.95 all in

River: ($21.30) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $21.30
SB shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
SB wins $20.25
(Rake: $1.05)

Think that one is the most standard. Someone should tell him its not profitable to setmine in 3B pots .
yeah, nothing you can do about that. you're committed there and if he has a set you just gotta pay him off. over the long run you make money when he takes that line.

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Originally Posted by rocaerix
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) J 6 2 (3 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, BB raises to $3.80 all in, Hero calls $2.30, BTN raises to $12.70 all in, Hero calls $6 all in

Turn: ($24.35) 7 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($24.35) 8 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $24.35
Hero shows J A (a pair of Jacks)
BTN shows 2 2 (three of a kind, Deuces)
BB shows J Q (a pair of Jacks)
BTN wins $11.40
BTN wins $11.75
(Rake: $1.20)

I think I should have shoved over BB all in. Then folded to BTNs shove. Realistically one of them should have TPTK beat (looking at you BTN) since there are no draws, but I could just be results oriented.... This was in my session where I was tired and annoyed at previous sessions and already had a defeatist attitude going in, great time to be playing poker.
hmm, that's a tough spot. but... TPTK in a multiway pot is not strong enough to stack off with against solid regs. BTN and BB flat called preflop, which most of the time means they've got drawing hands (pocket pairs and suited connectors). BB donk-bet into you for 1/2 pot which is pretty weak, so i think your 3-bet there is ok. you have to consider what BTN is overcalling with though-- there's been a raise and a reraise, and he cold called for >10% of his stack. if he's a solid reg, then he's calling there because he has TPTK beat (the board is dry, so he can't still be on a draw). if BB was the only one in the pot i would have snap called his shove, but with BTN behind you i think i would have folded to BB's raise since BTN is not folding no matter what and you're probably way behind him.

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Originally Posted by rocaerix
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) A Q 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

River: ($4.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $6.95 all in, Hero calls $4.45

Final Pot: $18.15
BTN shows 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives)
Hero shows A Q (two pair, Aces and Queens)
BTN wins $17.30
(Rake: $0.85)

I think this is another "oh not again" awesome pot odds so I call when I'm never good hand. I don't think AK is shoving here ever. Worse two pair enough of the time to justify call when BDFD and gutshot hit?
hm, i think one of the problems here is that you didn't value bet your hand hard enough. the flop has both flush and straight draw possibilities, so you want to get as much money into the pot before any scare cards come out (cards that will slow you down, OR cards that will make your opponent less likely to continue, such as a third heart if the villain has AK or a straight draw). also, a lot of worse aces are coming along which you can get value out of. i'd bet at least 3/4 of the pot on the flop and turn so that you'll have gotten much more of your money in ahead for all the times when the villain is coming along with a straight or flush draw and hits on the river. say instead you bet:

$0.65 bet on flop --> $2.15 pot going into turn
$1.75 bet on turn --> $5.65 pot going into river
$3.00 bet on river, villain shoves all-in ($6.25), you call $3.25

then you're getting 4.6:1 odds to call ($3.25 into a $14.90 pot), whereas as played you're only getting 3.1:1 odds ($4.45 into a $13.70 pot).

anyway, looks like you ran into a bunch of coolers that session. that just means you're due for a heater soon...
01-24-2010 , 05:50 PM
I stake my mom like $10 a week to play 2NL. Usually she goes busto quick but lately, she's been winning so I haven't had to reload her in a while. She's up $10 lol.


Played 1k hands, tried out some rush poker, didn't like that too much

so far decent, hoping to get rolled for 50nl soon. need to continue running super hot and put in some hands next month.

01-24-2010 , 06:15 PM
Just moved up to 10nl and am already down 2 bi within 100 hands...


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $21.55
UTG: $16.20
MP: $9.60
CO: $10.00
BTN: $12.30
Hero (SB): $10.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K A
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $10.45 all in, BTN calls $6.95

Flop: ($21.00) J J 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($21.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($21.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.00
BTN shows A A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows K A (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
BTN wins $19.95
(Rake: $1.05)


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $21.25
SB: $14.55
BB: $9.45
UTG: $10.15
MP: $21.80
Hero (CO): $11.70

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) Q 8 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.70) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.70, SB calls $3.70

River: ($11.10) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.20 all in, SB calls $6.20

Final Pot: $23.50
SB shows T J (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
SB wins $22.35
(Rake: $1.15)
01-24-2010 , 06:23 PM
Hand #1 is standard - Though I would fold to a 4 bet.

Hand #2 - 3bet/shove flop
01-24-2010 , 06:25 PM
hand 1: pretty much every time I see that tiny little 4bet.. it's aces
hand 2: Why just flat the raise?
01-24-2010 , 06:34 PM
Update:

Today's session was more or less pain. first 500 hands weren't too bad, up a few buy-ins. Then one of the few times i decided to flat AA ip the guy flops trip kings and shoves. can only blame myself for having an ugly ev. Then the next 500 hands i was pretty much card dead, stole a few blinds here and there just kinda never got anyone hooked even though the tables were all 40/10 35/2 etc. And then i kinda got tired lost my focus and started playing bad + losing.

Self reminder: NIT UP since i am still kinda used to 25NL where people give u atleast some credit. Also i should c-bet less vs certain opponents

Kinda shy to post my fail graph but hell if i am here to grind so i can not hide playing bad.



BR: -$8

FPP pro in the makin'
01-24-2010 , 06:34 PM
Trust me i was considering 3bet shoving that flop. As it is what I would do all the time at 5nl. But i figured maybe at 10nl people would try and play back at me with air. I didn't want to 3bet shove here because i was scared that all worse would fold. I figured by just flatting here, he would fire another barrel becuz i showed "weakness" then i get it in on the turn. Didn't think he would check the flush tho. O well. Ended up 5.05 for the session pretty stoked.

      
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