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03-11-2011 , 12:29 AM
nothing i love more than playing a tourny for 3+ hours to lose like this...



    Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8166962

    UTG+2: 11,924 (23.8 bb)
    MP1: 5,580 (11.2 bb)
    MP2: 35,152 (70.3 bb)
    MP3: 18,039 (36.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): 12,874 (25.7 bb)
    BTN: 12,823 (25.6 bb)
    SB: 8,337 (16.7 bb)
    BB: 23,688 (47.4 bb)

    Preflop: (480) Hero is CO with A A
    UTG+2 calls 500, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 500, MP3 calls 500, Hero raises to 3,730, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 3,230, 2 folds

    Flop: (9,690) 9 3 3 (2 players)
    UTG+2 bets 8,134 and is all-in, Hero calls 8,134

    Turn: (25,958) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (25,958) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 25,958 pot
    Final Board: 9 3 3 2 7
    UTG+2 showed 3 Q and won 25,958 (14,034 net)
    Hero showed A A and lost (-11,924 net)



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    03-11-2011 , 12:39 AM
    who the hell calls off 1/3 their stack pre with Q3o?
    03-11-2011 , 01:40 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wisdommaster1
    you play rush w/o a HUD? you would prob make alot more at rush if you used one
    I don't think so. If i played 6max, I'd use it, but not for FR.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Texans24
    its useless at 5nl.
    This, imo.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Texans24
    i'll personally never use it for 5nl might consider at higher stakes, i feel i have a high enough edge already at rush 5nl and the fact my labtop lags a bit with its irritating...i tried 6 tablin today and played 2 extra 6-max reg speed tables, for some reason im really good at reg speed 6 max but i struggle at 6 max rush. any advice from any 6max rush players?
    Do you notice how much FT lags when you play more than 4 tables? I can't even imagine how much a HUD would contribute to that.
    03-11-2011 , 01:57 AM
    I get no lag when I 6 table rush, and I even tried 8 rush tables with HEM and my HUD running and it was totally fine, and I have a $350 computer thats like 2.5 years old...
    03-11-2011 , 02:27 AM
    PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    CO: $29.27
    BTN: $25.16
    SB: $28.01
    Hero (BB): $54.05
    UTG: $22.54
    MP: $30.40

    SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 7 7

    UTG raises to $1.00, fold, fold, BTN calls $1.00, fold, Hero calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.10, 3 players) 7 T 9
    Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($3.10, 3 players) J
    Hero bets $2.25, UTG calls $2.25, BTN calls $2.25

    River: ($9.85, 3 players) 6
    Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

    Hero shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
    UTG shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens) (PreFlop 46%, Flop 87%, Turn 79%)
    BTN mucks A Q (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 36%, Flop 8%, Turn 19%)
    UTG wins $9.37


    Set over set and lost pretty much the minimum. Not getting stacked is almost as important as stacking someone. Getting lucky in these situation.

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    PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    Hero (BB): $25.00
    UTG: $33.68
    MP: $25.71
    CO: $29.29
    BTN: $24.39
    SB: $35.18

    SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 5 T

    fold, MP calls $0.25, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

    Flop: ($1.00, 4 players) K 5 Q
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($1.00, 4 players) 5
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

    River: ($1.00, 4 players) 6
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, MP raises to $3.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.00

    MP shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Fives) (PreFlop 82%, Flop 70%, Turn 98%)
    Hero mucks 5 T (Three of a Kind, Fives) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 30%, Turn 2%)
    MP wins $6.66

    Exo would've been able to fold easily in this situation. My discipline needs more work. The only hand that i beat is pretty much a stone cold bluff. I dont think too many ppl bluff with air in that particular situation. I also felt like he wanted me to call. I thought he had 66.... i tanked for a while and then eventually called anyway. One of those hands where i had to see it.

    also saved myself alot of money by slow playing lol. If i bet the turn, the money would've gone in.
    03-11-2011 , 02:31 AM
    My pc lags to the point where I won't see my cards on a table until the time bank noise goes off, warning me I need to act. On Stars I can play 16 tables w/ a HUD, and have no lag issues whatsoever.
    03-11-2011 , 02:42 AM
    Who's playing in the $13 KO mftops this Sunday? I'm going to buy in 2x, and ship that mofo. Then I'ma buy me a house in my ****ty little neighborhood.
    03-11-2011 , 03:47 AM
    i loaded up 4 FR rush 5nl tables for like 10 min and i dont see how you can make an argument against a hud, unless ur pc cant handle it... i had 0 hands logged at 5nl previously but i had 200+ hands on a couple people from when i played 10nl rush and its super useful when i know whether a reg is 22/18 or 8/8...

    made 3 buyins in 150 hands then quit cuz i'm so used to 24 table stacking and the mouse movement was to much for me to regress to lol
    03-11-2011 , 04:06 AM
    Nah my pc can handle the HUD fine. Like I said, i used to 16table on stars w/ a hud. FT's software just sucks, and the tables don't load fast enough (rush obv) so the timebank pops up when the cards do sometimes.

    As for the hud, I just don't see it as useful at 5nl rush. Whether someone is a reg or not doesn't mean that much too me. I color code a lot of players, and can basically tell from that and stack sizes.
    03-11-2011 , 05:41 AM
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker Hand Converter from PokerConverter.com

    saw flop

    CO ($5.26)
    Button ($3)
    SB ($4.45)
    Hero (BB) ($5.42)
    UTG ($3.95)
    UTG+1 ($1.98)
    MP1 ($1.88)
    MP2 ($7.20)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
    UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, Button calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25

    Flop: ($0.92) 3, A, 2 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $5.12 (All-In), Button calls $1.50 (All-In)

    Turn: ($6.32) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($6.32) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $6.32 | Rake: $0.31

    ^^ std shove otf for value right?.. the iso raise for essentially 10% of his starting stack just like a 10bb 3bet vs full stack would be and tptk/overpairs or tpgk vs fish we dont fold right?...
    03-11-2011 , 07:07 AM
    I love playing euros. People from finland, germany, u can bank on them being bluffers. They all think they're Victor blom and they love gloating after a big bluff. I admit they got me good this one time though.

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    Hero (BB): $45.81
    UTG: $25.00
    CO: $12.50
    BTN: $27.47
    SB: $57.34

    SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J Q

    fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.10, 2 players) Q 9 T
    Hero checks, BTN bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

    Turn: ($10.60, 2 players) 9
    Hero checks, BTN bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

    River: ($21.10, 2 players) T
    Hero checks, BTN bets $12.25, fold

    BTN shows 8 7 (Two Pair, Tens and Nines)
    BTN wins $20.08


    Just an epic bluff. That hurt a little.
    But i got over it quickly.
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    PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    Hero (UTG): $25.00
    BTN: $29.41
    SB: $13.57
    BB: $47.70

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J J

    Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

    Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) J 4 6
    SB bets $1.25, fold, Hero calls $1.25

    Turn: ($4.75, 2 players) Q
    SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

    River: ($10.75, 2 players) K
    SB bets $8.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.57

    SB shows 9 A (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
    Hero shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
    Hero wins $26.89

    Different people doing it but same idea. Euros love bluffing.
    03-11-2011 , 07:12 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Exothermic
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker Hand Converter from PokerConverter.com

    saw flop

    CO ($5.26)
    Button ($3)
    SB ($4.45)
    Hero (BB) ($5.42)
    UTG ($3.95)
    UTG+1 ($1.98)
    MP1 ($1.88)
    MP2 ($7.20)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
    UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, Button calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25

    Flop: ($0.92) 3, A, 2 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $5.12 (All-In), Button calls $1.50 (All-In)

    Turn: ($6.32) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($6.32) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $6.32 | Rake: $0.31

    ^^ std shove otf for value right?.. the iso raise for essentially 10% of his starting stack just like a 10bb 3bet vs full stack would be and tptk/overpairs or tpgk vs fish we dont fold right?...
    Its a 3 way pot. Button limped call range= small pocket pair/suited connector/Axs.

    Post flop, min raise from a fish= danger. I think you're looking at A3,A2,45s, 33,22 alot of the times. Best case scneario for you is a K high flush draw. Exonit it imo.
    03-11-2011 , 08:31 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SchererBoy
    Who's playing in the $13 KO mftops this Sunday? I'm going to buy in 2x, and ship that mofo. Then I'ma buy me a house in my ****ty little neighborhood.
    If I'm not working.. I'm more than likely in and 4x'ing it. My guess though is that I'll be working
    03-11-2011 , 09:12 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SchererBoy
    Who's playing in the $13 KO mftops this Sunday? I'm going to buy in 2x, and ship that mofo. Then I'ma buy me a house in my ****ty little neighborhood.
    I have yet to play a mftops, so this may be the one I play, and if I do, you have to plan on taking second.
    03-11-2011 , 09:29 AM
    Well I just dropped 2 BIs @ 5nl rush, after talking about how easy it was. I can't believe how unlucky I just ran. I had two ******ed ****ing europeans calling me down w/ gutshots, and they both rivered it each time for a whole stack. I called an aipf shove w/ KK, guy flips over JTo and flops 2 pair. I really ****ing hate european ppl.

    Damn I was on such a tear too. Up 18.5 BIs (including RB) this month.

    Oh and sorry to our Euro friends from this thread. I only hate the tards on the tables.

    Last edited by SchererBoy; 03-11-2011 at 09:38 AM.
    03-11-2011 , 11:56 AM
    Yeah I honestly prefer to not play during the day and wait until US night time, the games are way softer and looser and I don't have to deal with the euro monkeys. I actually have a hard time with russians, they run like the sun against me.
    03-11-2011 , 12:01 PM
    Ya the games are extremely tight during the morning in US time. The avg pot for 5nl Rush goes up about 2.5 BBs, and the players%/flop goes up 5-10% when you play during the US evening.
    03-11-2011 , 12:05 PM
    Yeah I noticed the last couple nights rush has been even looser. At 5nl its been like 22% for fr and 31 or 32% for 6max, which makes it sooo easy to set mine and make money from over pairs. Its great for a not like me who plays 13/10 at 6max.
    03-11-2011 , 01:41 PM
    $20 +1r/1a in 19 minutes! anyone else in?
    03-11-2011 , 02:12 PM
    Hells no! That's a $61 mtt, about 1/7th of my BR.
    03-11-2011 , 02:14 PM
    i used FTPS to buy the entry and then i will be putting up $40 (assuming i make it the first hour to the rebuy)

    ONE TIME!
    03-11-2011 , 02:22 PM
    wee double up AA held against KK
    03-11-2011 , 02:28 PM
    sn?
    03-11-2011 , 02:31 PM
    fish4lyfe
    03-11-2011 , 02:43 PM
    am i ******ed or something? the way ironman works is if you get silver for example your first month. you receive 40 base medals correct? as well as a freeroll ticket that you can then exchange for 40 more medals. meaning first month of silver would be 80 medals?

          
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