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08-19-2010 , 04:51 PM
http://www.evplusplus.com/poker_tool...nce_simulator/

Play with this a little and try not to cry.
08-19-2010 , 04:54 PM
thx *******
08-19-2010 , 04:58 PM
ROR is risk of ruin.

That graph earlier showed demonstrations of what luck can do to a winrate. The two outcomes had the same inputs. One is up 22 buyins and one was down over 30 and the only difference is not controllable by by the player.
You can lose plenty of games without doing anything wrong. If losing your deposit would be a disaster then you need a cushion to take care of the times things don't go your way.
08-19-2010 , 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sputum
ROR is risk of ruin.

That graph earlier showed demonstrations of what luck can do to a winrate. The two outcomes had the same inputs. One is up 22 buyins and one was down over 30 and the only difference is not controllable by by the player.
You can lose plenty of games without doing anything wrong. If losing your deposit would be a disaster then you need a cushion to take care of the times things don't go your way.
40% rakeback could well save me from the disasterweek that is upcoming then. Or maybe switch down to NL10 fullring and go 15/5 for a while.
08-19-2010 , 05:34 PM
bankroll: $392

played 1100 hands yesterday and finished a buy in down.
couldn't get online this morning so did some session reviews instead. that definitely paid off, i got online tonight and put 4 hours in and finished 5 buy ins up. ran insanely well and i don't know what this guy was thinking-


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $17.08
Hero (CO): $20.48
BTN: $6.93
SB: $33.81
BB: $6.20
UTG: $4.35
UTG+1: $11.29
UTG+2: $16.07
MP1: $10.26

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J J
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.70

Flop: ($1.95) J K 6 (2 players)
MP2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, MP2 calls $0.90

Turn: ($4.35) 8 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.30, MP2 raises to $4.60, Hero raises to $18.38 all in, MP2 calls $10.38 all in

River: ($34.31) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $34.31
MP2 shows K 9 (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero wins $32.31
(Rake: $2.00)
08-19-2010 , 06:13 PM
I'm now approaching 2 weeks w/out playing poker, other than forum games, almost at the point of return.
08-19-2010 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helldonk
40% rakeback could well save me from the disasterweek that is upcoming then. Or maybe switch down to NL10 fullring and go 15/5 for a while.
I'm not sure if you mean it this way or not...but you are coming off as if a downswing is definitely going to happen now that we showed you that you may just be running hot... and this certainly isn't the case. We are just trying to let you know that your risk of going broke is a bit high because of your bankroll vs your limit. I might suggest playing 10nl most of the time..but keep an eye on the 20nl tables.. if you have a few players that you have as really bad (which you probably should if you've reviewed and paid attention) play one of those fishies. Once you feel you are comfortably rolled (20buyins min).. then start playing just the hu games.
08-19-2010 , 09:04 PM
BR: $132

I feel defeated. 1150 hands today, felt like every hand was going to lose, and it did. Down $90 from my high point now.
08-19-2010 , 09:30 PM
When should I start to multitable? I only put in 100 to maybe 200 hands on days where i feel like playing and usually I will either win good or tilt away money. How do you guys get in to multitabling and playing so many hands in a day? I realize I play very little volume. My bankroll is only, I think, $104 on Pokerstars and $Busto on Full Tilt.
08-19-2010 , 09:53 PM
Start with 2 tables. When it's comfortable and you're able to keep track of what's going on and still have good results. Then just add another table and so on. No need to go to 24 tables though (unless you're doing the rakeback pro stuff.)
08-19-2010 , 10:24 PM
167.50 to 179.00. Only due to clearing the 10.00 bonus for another 750 FPP's or w/e they are.

was up 2 bI's early. made 2 really bad plays and lost over a BI then I got 2 outted on the river about 2 minutes later. so I just about broke even on the session.

takin a stab at 10nl tomorrow possibly. We will see how it goes.
08-19-2010 , 10:59 PM
0 Volume this month - SC2 > Poker atm.
08-19-2010 , 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enprinte
0 Volume this month - SC2 > Poker atm.
I loved SC. SC2 doesn't do it for me..
Been dominating 50NL, feels like ol' times
08-20-2010 , 12:21 AM
is sc2 any good?.. i was a huge sc nerd

overall did 3buyins playing 700hands at 10nl today, +$31 pretty much the best cash day for me so far in my career, as wierd as it is to say, ive had $60-80 days playing sng;s but for cash games its the best result so woot me i hope ill be back into the positive in 10nl after the weekend

bankroll $196
08-20-2010 , 01:43 AM
Wow, I just had a terrible session of bad beats and suck outs. I got KK 7 times (during an 815 hand session) and lost 5x with it. First time was for a stack against this nitty ****** from brasil. The next was for about 60bb when some ****** 4bets me pf w/ QJo and we get it in and he flops 2 pair. Every other time I raised pre and had 2 ppl call and an Ace would hit the flop an they go crazy over it.

I can't believe how unlucky I was tonight. I never tilted once, and still kept getting losing hands, time after time. I'm down to $182 + 9.90T$ on ps, and if I go broke I'm done. Kind of hard playing 8-12 tables of 10nl with only 18BIs. I may have to cut down to 6 bc I'm never going to play 5nl again.

I guess I'll report back after this session, and you'll know if I'm doomed or not.
08-20-2010 , 01:49 AM
I never played sc1, but I love sc2. Cant compare it to the first though... But the strategy element is pretty much built for a smart poker player lol
08-20-2010 , 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobFarha
I never played sc1, but I love sc2. Cant compare it to the first though... But the strategy element is pretty much built for a smart poker player lol
I tried the SC2 guest trial and I really like it. Loved the original SC but I'm really getting into poker. Unless someone has a used version cheap, I'm sticking to poker :P
08-20-2010 , 02:02 AM
poker is a easy game compared to starcraft, so with that said ill stick to poker ... i will probably play some sc2 next year though i hope all the bugs and whatnot are worked out by then & i hope im at 50-100nl by that time as well
08-20-2010 , 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malfunction
BR @ 264 euros.
Played 460 hands for 64 ptBB/100 tonight (although I ran 2 BI over EV...)
Won 2 BI yesterday, didn't go too well.
Typical 'microdonks' joined my table yesterday (HU)
Limp/call 4BB, floats A-high, floats turn, donkshoves A-river...sigh.

Today Rakeback is coming in so I can start to take shots at 10NL Hopefully I can maintain my avg winrate @ 20ptBB/100.
08-20-2010 , 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Wow, I just had a terrible session of bad beats and suck outs. I got KK 7 times (during an 815 hand session) and lost 5x with it. First time was for a stack against this nitty ****** from brasil. The next was for about 60bb when some ****** 4bets me pf w/ QJo and we get it in and he flops 2 pair. Every other time I raised pre and had 2 ppl call and an Ace would hit the flop an they go crazy over it.

I can't believe how unlucky I was tonight. I never tilted once, and still kept getting losing hands, time after time. I'm down to $182 + 9.90T$ on ps, and if I go broke I'm done. Kind of hard playing 8-12 tables of 10nl with only 18BIs. I may have to cut down to 6 bc I'm never going to play 5nl again.

I guess I'll report back after this session, and you'll know if I'm doomed or not.
maybe you should post some of these hands so I can see what leaks you have. Here's a rule of thumb. If you have KK UTG and are called by 2 players with position on you, pretty much if they call on the flop, you will:
1) win half their stacks if they are calling stations with draws
2) be put in a very hard situation
3) probably beat by 2 pair
4) win very little
of course, i'm not saying be scared with KK but remember, it's just 1 pair.
08-20-2010 , 02:48 AM
went from red hot to white hot tonight ... not one major losing pot in an hour of play ... hurray for the flip side of variance!

$671 --> $715
08-20-2010 , 03:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerz
maybe you should post some of these hands so I can see what leaks you have. Here's a rule of thumb. If you have KK UTG and are called by 2 players with position on you, pretty much if they call on the flop, you will:
1) win half their stacks if they are calling stations with draws
2) be put in a very hard situation
3) probably beat by 2 pair
4) win very little
of course, i'm not saying be scared with KK but remember, it's just 1 pair.
I don't get married to hands. I learned that a long time ago. But losing with it so many times in one session is why I mentioned it.

Usually when I get it I'm in EP, and get into multiway pots and have to lay it down on the flop. That doesn't bother me. When ppl float my flop/turn bet with A high and hit on me it's sickening. It's been happening all night.

I'm currently down $29. I lost $30 in the first session and proceeded to play 5/10/25nl all at once. Mixed FR & 6max too. I did alright, but didn't play well bc tilt began to set in, so I just quit.
08-20-2010 , 05:07 AM
BR- 143.58

About $6 up from 2 days ago, but I hit a massive downswong during that time, thank god for stellar bonus, and deposit bonus, saved my ass. Think the swong is over though had a good day today, bout $20 or so.

Also, Made Silverstar! Have been playing since March, and my highest VPP total so far was 250, and since I switched to 5NL this week, I just ground out 500 VPP, not bad for 3/4 tabling I don't think.
08-20-2010 , 05:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Wow, I just had a terrible session of bad beats and suck outs. I got KK 7 times (during an 815 hand session) and lost 5x with it. First time was for a stack against this nitty ****** from brasil. The next was for about 60bb when some ****** 4bets me pf w/ QJo and we get it in and he flops 2 pair. Every other time I raised pre and had 2 ppl call and an Ace would hit the flop an they go crazy over it.

I can't believe how unlucky I was tonight. I never tilted once, and still kept getting losing hands, time after time. I'm down to $182 + 9.90T$ on ps, and if I go broke I'm done. Kind of hard playing 8-12 tables of 10nl with only 18BIs. I may have to cut down to 6 bc I'm never going to play 5nl again.

I guess I'll report back after this session, and you'll know if I'm doomed or not.
I hear ya, I lost the last two of my AA vs KK AIPF races. 4 BI under EV right there.
08-20-2010 , 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FloppyFelty
I hear ya, I lost the last two of my AA vs KK AIPF races. 3.3 BI under EV right there.

      
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