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08-17-2010 , 10:49 AM
Masq my bro. Did I butcher this hand or is this a fold pre?
Is it good to get it in here on this flop?

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $9.62
UTG: $10.07
Hero (MP): $11.00
CO: $11.46
BTN: $9.62
SB: $6.59

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with Q 7 8 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 7 3 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.55, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $9.80 all in, BTN calls $5.87 all in

Turn: ($19.39) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($19.39) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
08-17-2010 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by laberrababer
Masq my bro. Did I butcher this hand or is this a fold pre?
Is it good to get it in here on this flop?
Afraid to say there's a few mistakes there. Firstly your hand's not so great. You don't have many possibilities to make good flushes with your hand. You do have some connectivity with the 678 but it's not really a hand i'd be opening with pre-flop, let alone calling a 3bet. Maybe if you had a bit more connectivity like 6789/5678 then you could consider calling the 3bet. But only if you figure they're going to be 3betting most of the time with AAxx hands and stacking off on flop regardless of texture.

On the flop you have the OESD but no re-draw to the spade flush draw. Also there's a straight up there already. When you ask yourself "what sort of hands are going to be calling my raise?" which hands will you be beating. At this point you're behind the flopped straight, behind sets, I think you're ahead of an AAxx hand (which has no spades and doesn't have any of your outs.) You're ahead of 24 I guess.

Bottom line, it's really thin and I don't think it's really a hand you should be opening with and calling 3bets with. There's obviously the element of it depends on your opponent but I wouldn't have played the hand like that. Looks like it worked out though in this case. What did villain have? Was it the AAxx with some spades or a run-down sort of hand like 6789?
08-17-2010 , 11:19 AM
nice explanation. thank you. here is what he had:
(button) showed [8c 9h Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens

btw: you should be playing plo 100 by now. but hey in plo you can run really hot. who knows...
08-17-2010 , 11:25 AM
Bankroll - 12$ on FTP
Goal: prove i am a winning player at each level from 2nl-25nl over a sample size of atleast 20k hands per level. While maintaining extremely conservative bankroll management.
Timeframe: now till the end of the year.
08-17-2010 , 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by laberrababer
nice explanation. thank you. here is what he had:
(button) showed [8c 9h Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens

btw: you should be playing plo 100 by now. but hey in plo you can run really hot. who knows...
Yeah, so that's really the best you can hope for as you had 2 pair outs. But it's a really thin spot and you're lucky to be flipping given the action. You should try and be more selective about hand selection. I can send you a general article on PLO which covers it and a few other aspects if you're interested?

PLO's a funny game, I crushed the $2 & $5 game and then moved up to $10 and just ran really bad. I took a little PLO break and thought more about hand selections, came back and played tighter and started folding some of the hands I used to play like the A782ds as I used to think they were good as I could make nut flushes. Only thing is when you flop the nut flush people aren't generally going to put in money and it doesn't happen often and then the rest of time you're going to have to pay to draw to it. Then i'm a bit of a tilter at times too, the game plays very differently the higher up you go and people will get it in thinner on the flop. I'm just going to try play good and hope my results will eventually reflect it. I'll get HEM soon so graphs will come at some point.
08-17-2010 , 11:51 AM
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08-17-2010 , 12:02 PM
Right now I'm playing about 1 hour a day 4 tabling 10NL (FUUUU job). My graphs have been pretty all over the place right not, but luckily bonus clearing at Stars is helping my BR good.

I am looking to decrease my WTSD% and increasing my $WSD. Hopefully by becoming less of a calling station I'll donk off 50bb less per session and increase my WR.

BR: ~$550. Will take shots at 25NL at $750.
08-17-2010 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andrestc
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
It infuriates me that FTP refused to give me RB. I've been playing/railing on their site for years.
08-17-2010 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlaneH
It infuriates me that FTP refused to give me RB. I've been playing/railing on their site for years.
Me too, i'm tagged to some affiliate that tagged their company to my computer through some cookie on another website even though I got FTP direct from the FTP site. It's brutally unfair and there's nothing they can do about it even though i'd have generated thousands of $ of rake. Oh well, their loss for now I guess. I know of a way round it but i'm happy with stars for now.
08-17-2010 , 01:01 PM
I ran so terribly last night. I also was not playing my A game so I made a lot of calls I might of escaped from but overall it was just a few coolers/losing to maniacs.
08-17-2010 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sputum
319 tourneys $344.20 24.2% roi

made silverstar for the first time since May
339 tournies $374.05 24.7% roi

plus halfway to $50 stellar and about ten bucks in fpp cmon wcoop reload plz
08-17-2010 , 01:46 PM
Sputum, shout when you see any sats to the wcoop O8 games - I'm gonna try and have a bash. Had a look the other day but nothinbg was up yet.
08-17-2010 , 02:05 PM
BR: $600 on PS
Stakes: 25NL FR
Goal: Put in 10k-20k hands at 25NL with a decent win rate. Build a BR for 50NL by the end of the year.

Just started taking shots at 25NL. Ran like god for the first 500 hands, so I should be able to stick around for a while.
08-17-2010 , 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malfunction
I want to follow this.
Withdrew my entire roll on PS and FTP (~$1500) for life expenses.
I had some money to spare to threw €200 on iPoker skin ($8000 rakerace, 40% RB).

Dropped some BI's on 20NL, so trying something completely new:
4nlhu.

Up 12BI in 5k hands, @ ~10ptbb/100.
20th rakeback and rakerace is coming in (~€120) so I'll try to take shots at 10NL then.

No graph, i'm @ work.


Good luck all.
Graph
08-17-2010 , 02:13 PM
BR: $38 at PS

Sng player

Goal: $150 until 2011
08-17-2010 , 02:45 PM
went to start a 6-tabling session, played about 100 hands and then my computer froze... about 90% of my tilt frustrations are directly related to my PoS computer sometimes i just want to cram a M80 in the CD-drive and watch it explode...
08-17-2010 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wisdommaster1
went to start a 6-tabling session, played about 100 hands and then my computer froze... about 90% of my tilt frustrations are directly related to my PoS computer sometimes i just want to cram a M80 in the CD-drive and watch it explode...
Sick! :/
08-17-2010 , 02:55 PM
i think its calmed down now so i guess i'll try again, i really need to just go and buy a cheap ass computer that i use solely for poker and pokertracker
08-17-2010 , 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblebee99
Sputum, shout when you see any sats to the wcoop O8 games - I'm gonna try and have a bash. Had a look the other day but nothinbg was up yet.
will do

miniftops $24+2 plo8 knockout rush $50kg early September should be fun, the ftops I played ~450 hands in 90 minutes

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Originally Posted by wisdommaster1
went to start a 6-tabling session, played about 100 hands and then my computer froze... about 90% of my tilt frustrations are directly related to my PoS computer sometimes i just want to cram a M80 in the CD-drive and watch it explode...
do you know what it lacks? Might be able to salvage a few bits or upgrade a little.
Or buy a decent one for everything, seems better than 2 cheapos, CTH are good for builds and components and stuff if you want to construct your own.
08-17-2010 , 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malfunction
Graph
Took a bunch of BI of the same guy. After 20 hands I just knew I had to sit with him on more tables.
He played me at 3 tables for 600 hands, busted him for 61ptBB/100

BR @ 235 euros.

Some highlights:

iPoker - €0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): €7.02
SB: €7.66

SB posts SB €0.02, Hero posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has J A

SB raises to €0.12, Hero raises to €0.36, SB calls €0.24

Flop: (€0.72, 2 players) J 2 6
Hero bets €0.56, SB raises to €1.20, Hero raises to €6.66, SB calls €5.46

Turn: (€14.04, 2 players) 3

River: (€14.04, 2 players) A

Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
SB shows A 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero wins €13.11



iPoker - €0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €9.74
BB: €5.98

Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has A A

Hero raises to €0.12, BB calls €0.08

Flop: (€0.24, 2 players) 3 4 6
BB checks, Hero bets €0.18, BB raises to €0.58, Hero raises to €1.48, BB calls €0.90

Turn: (€3.20, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (€3.20, 2 players) Q
BB bets €4.38, Hero calls €4.38

Hero shows A A (Flush, Ace High)
BB shows K 6 (Flush, King High)
Hero wins €11.17



iPoker - €0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €5.66
BB: €10.45

Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has Q T

Hero raises to €0.12, BB raises to €0.36, Hero calls €0.24

Flop: (€0.72, 2 players) J 8 K
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€0.72, 2 players) 9
BB bets €0.36, Hero raises to €1.80, BB calls €1.44

River: (€4.32, 2 players) 2
BB bets €2.16, Hero raises to €3.50, BB calls €1.34

Hero shows Q T (Straight, King High)
BB shows K 7 (One Pair, Kings)
Hero wins €10.57



iPoker - €0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €17.07
BB: €5.17

Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has Q A

Hero raises to €0.12, BB raises to €0.36, Hero raises to €1.00, BB calls €0.64

Flop: (€2.00, 2 players) A T K
BB checks, Hero bets €1.60, BB raises to €4.17, Hero calls €2.57

Turn: (€10.34, 2 players) 8

River: (€10.34, 2 players) 4

Hero shows Q A (One Pair, Aces)
BB shows 8 9 (One Pair, Eights)
Hero wins €9.66


Lost a couple ofc, pretty high variance play :P


iPoker - €0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €8.48
BB: €5.88

Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has J K

Hero raises to €0.12, BB raises to €0.36, Hero raises to €1.08, BB calls €0.72

Flop: (€2.16, 2 players) T J 8
BB checks, Hero bets €1.62, BB raises to €4.80, Hero calls €3.18

Turn: (€11.76, 2 players) 5

River: (€11.76, 2 players) 7

BB shows T 9 (Straight, Jack High)
BB wins €10.98


This was terrible:

iPoker - £0.04 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): £5.51
BB: £8.36

Hero posts SB £0.02, BB posts BB £0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: £0.06) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to £0.12, BB raises to £0.36, Hero calls £0.24

Flop: (£0.72, 2 players) 7 5 9
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (£0.72, 2 players) 6
BB bets £0.54, Hero raises to £1.75, BB raises to £8.00, Hero calls £3.40

River: (£11.02, 2 players) 3

BB shows 8 T (Straight, Ten High)
BB wins £10.29



Me = happy, I'll look for him tomorrow again
08-17-2010 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wisdommaster1
i think its calmed down now so i guess i'll try again, i really need to just go and buy a cheap ass computer that i use solely for poker and pokertracker
Biggest issues for a PC is memory, fast HDD, not too shabby processor...that's about it. All new should be around $350ish.
08-17-2010 , 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sputum

do you know what it lacks? Might be able to salvage a few bits or upgrade a little.
Or buy a decent one for everything, seems better than 2 cheapos, CTH are good for builds and components and stuff if you want to construct your own.
it overheats like a mother, i know i could get a better/new internal fan but its really not worth the effort, its generally will run fun as long as i dont run videos or whatnot (no not porn sometimes i watch movies while playing tournies)

so i'll just deal with it since i'm currently unemployed (just finished college) and i'll buy a new one when i get a job
08-17-2010 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wisdommaster1
it overheats like a mother, i know i could get a better/new internal fan but its really not worth the effort, its generally will run fun as long as i dont run videos or whatnot (no not porn sometimes i watch movies while playing tournies)

so i'll just deal with it since i'm currently unemployed (just finished college) and i'll buy a new one when i get a job
what overheats?
whatever, it's fixable for next to nothing and you made it sound like it was really really annoying you.
maybe actually nothing, dust clearance might be all it needs.
08-17-2010 , 04:53 PM
BR=$175.37->$188.43 (+$13.06

1135 hands

pretty swongy sess, i had so many PP's early on and never hit a set prob like 1/20 in flopped sets but whatever good enough for me i guess






thought i would smooth call with KK and that backfired... or did it... no wait it still did


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $12.37
CO: $10.70
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1.15, 1 fold, BTN raises to $2.90, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.90) A 2 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($5.90) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.10, Hero raises to $7.10 all in, BTN calls $4 all in

River: ($20.10) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $20.10
BTN shows As Ah (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows Kc Ks (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN wins $19.10
(Rake: $1.00)



Bah stupid river


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $16.42
BB: $16.11
Hero (UTG): $13.89
CO: $10.00
BTN: $11.83

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) J 8 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.50) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90

River: ($3.30) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $3.30
SB shows Tc Jd (a straight, Queen high)
Hero shows Qc Qd (three of a kind, Queens)
SB wins $3.08
(Rake: $0.22)
08-17-2010 , 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sputum
what overheats?
whatever, it's fixable for next to nothing and you made it sound like it was really really annoying you.
maybe actually nothing, dust clearance might be all it needs.
its an Inspiron E1705 which i found out soon after i purchased it (4 years ago?) that it commonly has overheating issues, pretty sure its just the processor that overheats i've read many articles online about it and i have a cooling pad but it will still overheat if i run videos/video games for longer then 1-2 hours.

i've actually gotten used to this problem but it does really annoy me when it happens during poker

      
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