Got AIPF with AA v. KJs, obv fish got the flush lol, make that 19 BI below ev

o well time to make a staking thread. Hope u keep crushing Ice

I would say hmmm good call preflop and good calldown sir! Last 1500 Hands exactly 5 Stacks under ev

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($7.93)
Button ($10)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($10)
UTG ($18.39)
UTG+1 ($1.05)
MP1 ($20.98)
MP2 ($2)
MP3 ($23.42)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1.05 (All-In), 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.05, 1 fold, Button calls $1.05, Hero raises $3.95, 1 fold, MP3 calls $2.95, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.20) K, 9, A (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2

Turn: ($14.20) 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2

River: ($18.20) 10 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $2 (All-In), MP3 calls $2

Total pot: $22.20

Results:
Hero had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
UTG+1 had 7, A (one pair, Aces).
MP3 had 9, 7 (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero won $21.09




No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($7.63)
MP3 ($10)
Hero (CO) ($21.09)
Button ($10)
SB ($20.59)
BB ($10)
UTG ($20.98)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($11.72)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 5
2 folds, MP1 bets $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 5, J, A (4 players)
MP1 bets $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises $0.62, Button calls $0.62, MP1 raises $1.04, Hero calls $0.52, Button calls $0.52

Turn: ($4.37) 3 (3 players)
MP1 bets $0.10, Hero raises $3, Button calls $3, MP1 raises $5.80, Hero raises $16.75 (All-In), Button calls $5.66 (All-In), MP1 calls $4.48 (All-In)

River: ($33.79) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $33.79

Results:
Button had 7, A (flush, Ace high).
MP1 had J, 6 (one pair, Jacks).
Hero had 5, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Button won $28.84, Hero won $12.64


-.-

As I am restarting poker after a break, absolutely love a challenge and have no reason to choose any particular game, I'm going to switch over to PLO. I honestly miss the post flop play that NLHE just does not offer compared to LHE. This is problem. Someone in another thread said that there are no stories of people grinding up to the mid stakes from micros in PLO so I am going to see if it is possible. I am virtually starting from scratch in PLO, my background is almost exclusively LHE with maybe a couple of hundred hands of micro PLO at best so I know the rules and not much more.

So here we go, armed with a BR of $250 and a CR subscription the story of busto to robusto (hopefully) playing PLO with denks begins.

Start: PLO10
Goal: PLO50 by the end of the year, PLO200 by March.
Due to study break and the way my work shifts are structured that gives me roughly 5.5 months of full time play to accomplish this
I will be using a very aggro BRM strategy of 20 BI for PLO10 and PLO25 and 30 BI for PLO50 and PLO100 and 50 BI for PLO200. I will drop down a level any session I start below these requirements (I used to use aggro BRM successfully in LHE so am quite comfortable dropping down one or even two levels if I have to without even the slightest feeling of regret).

gogogo

I reaaaaally need to work on my discipline. I need a shock collar to make me think for more than 5 seconds on any pot larger than 20bb.

All of my horrible >20bb losing decisions have been made in a snap (and about 10% of my good >20bb winning decisions). If I cut those out my graph would be a giraffe instead of an M.

I think there is some merit in that thread about the guy hitting his head against the wall after a losing session.

lol...I was thinking of going back there to avenge my losses and this seems like a great opportunity. Seriously....you're crazy to just jump into those games with 25 buy-ins and a crappy training site subscription with a few hundred hands of PLO experience. At best you'll run hot to start and get off to a good run. Play much lower imo and work on your game or you'll go bust before you know. gl. Alternatively, let me know when you're playing and i'll pay you back x% on whatever you lose directly to me.

Maybe that sounds a bit harsh, but it's not as harsh as sitting into a high variance game with 25 buy-ins and little experience. Here's an old graph of mine from PLO10.

You may very well be right. Time will tell If it all goes balls up I'm back in NLHE land within a month with a new BR with challenge failed.

5bi in 400 hands

aint no thing

It'd be a shame to have that decision made for you. I'm a bit of a bankroll nit and I wasn't willing to play with much less than 50 buy-ins. I'm way over-rolled atm but i'd still not feel good about doing 25 buy-ins. Why would you not play lower to figure things out/build a roll before playing there? If you're any good you'd make more playing PLO2 than NL5 and more playing PLO5 than NL10.

guys, i open 99 utg, bad dickswingy/breakeven reg with 20ish% 3b over 200hands 3bets btn, without knowing anything about his range for continuing vs 4bet is getting it in here ok?

I flat

Put in another early morning session of just over 1K hands before bed. Played pretty well for the most part and almost got super tilted by this fish but managed to regain my composure and just play on. Didn't end up restacking him but oh well... least it was another winning session.

Here's the hand just before the one which almost tilted me.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $19.65
CO: $21.00
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $10.00
BB: $4.68
UTG: $10.73

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, fold, fold, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.75, 2 players) 5 T T
CO checks, Hero bets $1.57, CO calls $1.57

Turn: ($5.89, 2 players) 8
CO checks, Hero bets $3.36, CO calls $3.36

River: ($12.61, 2 players) 3
CO bets $5.30, Hero calls $3.77 and is all-in



...and here's the hand:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $19.65
MP: $11.00
Hero (CO): $19.18
BTN: $10.00
SB: $4.58
BB: $10.73

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9 9

UTG raises to $0.30, MP raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, SB raises to $4.58 and is all-in, fold, fold, MP raises to $11.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.50

Flop: ($26.98, 3 players) 7 T 5

Turn: ($26.98, 3 players) A

River: ($26.98, 3 players) 7



Sucked that the shorty behind had KK but that was irrelevant in the end. Only thing I was worried about was UTG coming over the top (being deepstacked too). I retrospect I probably could've popped it to $2.50 if I knew I was gonna fold to an UTG shove.

Bankroll: $150.30 (+$14.47)
Hands played: 2,357

i just got hammered @10nl... won 47% of hands at showdown blahh

- lost jj in a 3bet pot vs 1 tabling fish as the flush came ott & shove less than the pot & he either made the flush or got there otr with a 10x with 1 of the suits ehh

- some idiot backraised shoved vs my kk thinking im squeezing light & hit a ace or had AA(didnt see just know i lost to an ace)

- 4-4-5 two toned flop & a 9 came ott & reg raised me & i thought he was repping too thinly so i flatted turn n half pot river & he showed nines full(sigh) + i was hijack so i probably folded there if i was utg ott but yea his flatting range is wider so f.u stars!

& some other pots i forgot about atm ehh... 2morrow in my session review ill post but god damn haven't had a horrible session where i felt helpless in like 2weeks so was hoping i was immune to them

To be honest, I just fold because we have to play 99 OOP in a 3bet pot, which is horrible. However 4betting is way better than calling a 3bet but if he shoves you have to call and I cant see you ever being better than flipping.

Ugh, never try to be fancy at NL2.

Well I played some $30 Hypers and got crushed, Got it in with the best hand every time.

/Sigh.

Ah well

I had a bit of a gross PLO session, it started off with one brutal beat and then they started to keep coming. AAds vs AAxx all in pre and they'd make a full house. People 3betting crap and calling 4bets and hitting the miracle flop. A great one was when I flopped top set on a flush board and check called flop and turn (K of the suit) then I bet called the river when board paired and villain showed KKxx with the flopped flush. I did run well in one pot though which saved my session. Just up under 1 buy-in after 1300 hands. A bit of a more normal winrate after my recent run.

Such a sick beat to lose that way....I was kind of expecting to see K4 or 44.

Hand #1
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BTN: $3.71
SB: $5.06
BB: $9.01
Hero (CO): $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with A 8 K 8
Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.35) 4 K K (2 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero raises to $1.36, SB raises to $4.42, Hero raises to $4.85 all in, SB calls $0.43

Turn: ($10.05) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.05) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.05
SB shows A K A J (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Hero shows A 8 K 8 (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
SB wins $9.55
(Rake: $0.50)

Some people would probably have just got it in pre. I pretty much put villain on his hand and decided to call the flop and see if I could improve.

Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $6.50
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $17.70
CO: $5.53
BTN: $7.58

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 6 Q K K
3 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) 8 J Q (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.40) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $3.80 all in, Hero calls $2.30 all in

River: ($10.00) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $10.00
SB shows A 5 Q A (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows 6 Q K K (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
Hero wins $9.52
(Rake: $0.48)
A nice turn for my hand.

Hand #3
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $12.38
Hero (BTN): $9.64
SB: $16.98
BB: $5.46
UTG: $4.72
MP: $6.44

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A Q J J
UTG raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.57) 5 7 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.57) Q (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, UTG folds, MP raises to $5.99 all in, Hero calls $1.99

River: ($13.55) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $13.55
Hero shows A Q J J (a flush, Ace high)
MP shows T 8 8 2 (a flush, Queen high)
Hero wins $12.88
(Rake: $0.67)

lol...I don't even know what this is. I was killing this table, maybe they levelled themselves that I was always bluffing.

Hand #4
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $12.16
Hero (CO): $20.43
BTN: $8.24
SB: $3.76
BB: $5.76

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 7 J A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 9 2 A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN raises to $2.07, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $6.78, BTN raises to $8.09 all in, Hero calls $1.31

Turn: ($16.78) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($16.78) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $16.78
Hero shows 7 J A A (four of a kind, Aces)
BTN shows 3 4 3 6 (a full house, Threes full of Aces)
Hero wins $15.95
(Rake: $0.83)

My spidey senses were going off and I was seriously going to fold to a turn bet whatever came (unless it was a K)

Hand #5
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $5.63
BB: $3.45
UTG: $3.25
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $3.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K J K J
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.55, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) K A 2 (2 players)
SB bets $1.14, Hero calls $1.14

Turn: ($3.48) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.48) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $3.48
SB shows A A 9 2 (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero mucks K J K J
SB wins $3.31
(Rake: $0.17)

This was pretty tilting, the perfect flop for villain. I didn't really put 5x in their range but obviously was wrong. Villain called me a fish after

Hand #6
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $12.99
SB: $19.25
BB: $5.57
Hero (UTG): $5.00
CO: $9.43

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 8 A 3 A
Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.47, Hero raises to $1.43, BB calls $0.96

Flop: ($2.88) 5 5 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.74, BB raises to $4.14 all in, Hero calls $0.83 all in

Turn: ($10.02) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($10.02) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $10.02
BB shows T 5 6 Q (a full house, Fives full of Sixes)
Hero shows 8 A 3 A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
BB wins $9.53
(Rake: $0.49)

The biggest pot of the session, I can't tell you how much I was pulling for a on the river and how good it was to see I was surprised to see after that my hand was still good on the turn.

Hand #7
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $12.18
Hero (BTN): $5.41
SB: $2.91
BB: $9.44
UTG: $4.81
MP: $9.98

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 3 A A 7
UTG raises to $0.17, MP raises to $0.58, CO calls $0.58, Hero raises to $2.56, 2 folds, UTG raises to $4.81 all in, MP calls $4.23, CO calls $4.23, Hero raises to $5.41 all in, MP calls $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($21.11) 3 K 4 (4 players - 2 are all in)
MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($21.11) J (4 players - 2 are all in)
MP checks, CO checks

River: ($21.11) 8 (4 players - 2 are all in)
MP checks, CO bets $6.77 all in, MP folds

Final Pot: $21.11
CO shows J 9 T T (a flush, Jack high)
Hero shows 3 A A 7 (a flush, Ace high)
UTG shows J 9 7 8 (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
Hero wins $1.71
Hero wins $18.35
(Rake: $1.05)

I dont know if you have some ridic table reads or if these two guys are insane but cold 4betting 99 at the micros can't be good IMO.

The guy who hit quads was a super fish. Had seen him 3betting and stacking off with A7o, AJs, 44, all sorts of crap.

i have to have a ton of fe though, and if i dont he has to add stuff like AJ and AT to his calling range which is ok anyway

Yeah thats fine, just dont flat the 3bet because I think thats by far the worst option.

i pretty much dont have a flatting range for 3bets out of position, although im toying with the idea of doing it more since regs play so s-forward in 3bet pots and tend to 3bet too light ip vs other regs

like if i flat fairly wide and c/jam a ton of flops with any sort of equity i don't think i'd do too badly

I did exactly that the other day on a A high board when I was 90% sure he most likely holding was KK/QQ. He still called with KK so I have decided not to try go mental in 3bet pots trying to blow people away.

In principle, it shouldn't be that bad a play vs light 3betters.

Put in another quick session before dinner and work again. Not bad, not bad. Tapped up a couple of fish in a few hands but hit some terrible boards in others. Here's a hand I looked back on and really wasn't sure of my play:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $12.08
SB: $17.61
BB: $11.72
UTG: $13.49
Hero (CO): $10.15

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 9 7 T
SB checks, Hero bets $0.58, SB raises to $1.16, Hero raises to $4.06, SB calls $2.90

Turn: ($8.82, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($8.82, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero checks



Figure once that flush comes I'm screwed, better to check behind and try and fill up on the river. When that didn't happen and he flipped the str8 I couldn't help but feel a shove on the turn would've folded him out but this is being far too results oriented right?

Bankroll: $262.48 (+$12.18)
Hands played: 2,756

Sigh.

[X] Serious case of run-bad






Very next hand:





I suck at the pokerz....moving downs-ville for me

What on earth is going on in that first hand?