I'd call the turn and try to get to showdown. I think most players barrel the turn with 2 big cards.

Id fold flop, purely because the aim with 99 in that multiway pot is to flop a set or maybe a straight draw.

When he bets the flop into 4 players I dont think many have AK/AQ. I personally wont cbet that board with overcards because someone is going to have something and it is an expensive cbet, even more so being out of position to two players.

Another reason I would fold flop is that if he has overpairs, its going to be super expensive to get to showdown. Based on that hand, I would fold flop because im a nit but the turn is easy fold.

At 10NL I would say hes value betting his overpair rather than firing twice with AK/AQ.

Dudes,

Seen the last thread, loved the title, wanted to join in but was intimidated by the cliquey-ness tbh

Glad theres a new thread going so i'll get involved

Currently playing 6 max £/Euro10nl on boyles - ipoker network, have £164 in the roll right now so if i drop to £120 i'll go back down to 4, hopefully won't happen though, goal is to make it to £20nl, never made it that far before.

Used to play FR on stars but hit a ****ty d/swing of about 15bi's in 20k hands at 10nl, didnt cash in many 235fpp sattelites last month, which I was using as my main form of RB, so decided the high RB elsewhere was too tempting, switched to 6max once i seen FR traffic on ipoker, grinded up from a £130 deposit at 4nl to get used to software and pad the roll a bit, now playing all 10nl tables after slowly adding them in, hopefully it stays that way!

GL people, hopefully I can help a bit for people <10nl and learn from those >10nl

Yeah you might be right. Just out of curiosity I made some range calculations.

Here is the nittiest of the scenarios: (I think even a nit would barrel fd + 2 overs there)

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

1,496 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8 7 2 3

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
9h 9c	11.90%	178	0
TT-AA, JhTh-AhKh	88.10%	1,318	0

And here's the one that came to my mind:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

2,860 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8 7 2 3

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
9h 9c	46.50%	1,330	0
TT-AA, AK, AQ, JhTh-AhKh	53.50%	1,530	0

So it really just comes down to your reads. If the villain is a 24 tabling nut peddler it's a fold. If he's more aggressive, you might have the odds to peel.

Yeah he may fire twice with AK/AQ/AJ of hearts, but thats such a small part of his range, he doesn't have much of a read on this guy and I just cant see him firing into a 4way pot with nothing, even more so on the turn. Also on the turn I think hes shoving every river so are we prepared to call? If not, get out on the turn.

Id just think its impossible to call down and show a profit long term in these spots at these levels.

I don't think he'll shove on every river. There's a ton of river cards that will make him either give up his bluffs or to go to c/call mode with hands that have value.

You prob have a sihtload more NL experience than I, but this is just for the sake of argument.

Thanks for the feedback guys.
If you'd like to know I called his turn bet for whatever reason, and folded on the river to a push. The river was a blank if I recall (don't have time to check HEM atm) but hey, I'm pretty sure he had me beat.

The way I see it he either had an overpair or a set, because like you said it's a pretty strong c-bet. Either way I made the wrong decision calling on the flop obv. Oh well, you live you learn I guess ^^

Maybe like an A or K or a heart will make him check the river if he has QQ/JJ/TT but even so, are we then going to turn our hand into a bluff and shove river or do we check back because we have showdown? Although I actually think we have no showdown value vs his range that goes bet bet check.

I love talking about hands in these threads, its interesting. Id take a 3BB loss on the flop because its hard to play from there on out and its a lot of guess work and hoping he shuts down/stops betting his flush.

I have just played an hour session as well and I ran like god, up 4 BIs in 500ish hands.

finished my session for today Good start in the new month!

first 3k hands i ran pretty ugly... 2 or 3 setups still 14$ under ev today





I lolled hard

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($13.55)
MP2 ($10.25)
MP3 ($9.97)
CO ($10.90)
Button ($7.64)
Hero (SB) ($10.64)
BB ($12.20)
UTG ($10.95)
UTG+1 ($11.28)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Button bets $0.50, Hero raises $2.20, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2.15, Button calls $1.75

Flop: ($6.85) Q, K, 10 (3 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3, 1 fold

Turn: ($12.85) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.39 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $5.39

River: ($23.63) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $23.63

Results:
Hero had K, K (full house, Kings over Queens).
UTG+1 had 4, A (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $22.45

Live BR: $3,000
Online BR: $70
Plan of attack: Go to the casino twice a week and play HUSNGs 5 hrs/wk
Stakes: $100 Max BI table on a weekday (2/3 blinds) and $200 Max BI on a weekend (3/5 blinds).

I'm doing this as a middle ground between good BRM and not wasting my time at lower stakes. I will be playing regs at 100NL on a weekday when they are presumably better, and worse players on a weekend at 200NL...I assume they will be fish since it's the weekend. I will come with 2 bullets for 100NL, and if I have at least $200 profit, I will come with 2 bullets for 200NL, otherwise I will play with 1 bullet on the weekend. Short irrelevant info - 1 rebuy can be up to 1.5 original buy in. If you haven't figured it out by now, the casino I go to uses 100NL and 200NL in terms of the buy in for that game, not the blinds. Here are the levels for the low stakes room

100NL - 2/3
200NL - 3/5
400NL - 5/10
500NL - 5/10 (the difference with this game is that you can buy in from $500 - $1500)

I've been using the Chris Ferguson BRM strat...where if 10% of my roll is on the table, I wait for 2 orbits then gtfo of that table. Anyone mind telling me if that BRM is acceptable for a live poker setting?

Goals: Run good at school, make $12,000 by next year, consistently win at least $600/mo

fyp

pre limp is bad

turn check is worse


buy in full

fold flop, fold turn

prefer flatting pre but 3b is obv ok

post is good

nice graph btw you are crushing, move up!

Not something I would advise new players to do, but I assure you I am quite comfortable with the increased risk that it entails ... if you doubt that I am a winning player overall, feel free to PTR me

Was down earlier in the day, but rebounded nicely after 2 sessions of 10NL + $10 stellar reward!

$249 -> $238 -> $261

Ah! A new BABR thread! Brilliant. Can help start my re-rise through the micros. Moved up to 25NL last month, ran well, ran bad, ran breakeven, withdrew down to $200. I'm now going to regain my tolerance for grinding at 10NL.

My main problem is tilt. Not really spewing off money on hands (although I do definitely call a lot on the river when I come up with so many reasons to fold). Just tilt in it frustrates me to play breakeven poker and makes me play scared money which eventually causes me to withdraw any profits.

I need to take a leaf out of The Poker Mindset.

Anywho, on with my goals.

Starting Bankroll: $200
Starting Stakes 10NL 6Max

Become a consistent grinder at 10NL and implement The Poker Mindset
Put in 30Kish hands (ok if it's under as I'm in Italy for my sisters wedding for a week)
Move back up to 25NL
Only withdraw bonuses and possibly any money made through FPPs

Peace out!

Id say its time for you to move up to .25nl. looks like you got it.

Back after a 2 month hiatus.

Decided to try 10nl with a BR of $50. Did okay; ended the month (10 days, 11 hours, 2500 hands), 13 dollars up. I feel I am crushing, but making terrible mistakes with marginal situations. Also run into a few set over sets etc. I have cut out all suited connectors, playing 4 tables trying to play around 15/x which has helped. I may be being too aggressive because my red line is quite high.

So far this month up 13 dollars = BR of $226.

Goal for Sep:
-$100 month.
-15k hands (1hour per day + 2 on weekends).
-Start poker journal again and post trouble hands.

Still trying to get back into the swing of things, two months feels like eternity.

Yeah, I've seen your posts, I was only joking. So easy to have a 3 buy-in drop over a couple of hundred hands though, so I guess you've gotta be willing to move down as 'aggressively' as you're trying to move up, when the time calls.

I actually did the same when i restarted my roll earlier in the year (with $300 at $20nl), although with stakes out of my comfort zone, I really dislike aggro BRM (personally).

herp derp cr vs dc question

which one am i meant to sign up as a NL player again?

This felt good. I was so close to quitting after 450hands.

@ 1847 yep, I have no ego about moving down when it's warranted, which is what I did yesterday for one day ... back to 25NL today, run goot 1 time!

continually working on my fr game over here... made some adjustments the last 2 weeks & now over 55k hands im winning 5bb/100@10nl.... im looking to play 50k hands per week now & keep on getting better... i playedl ess hands etc, 12/10/3 3% 3bet, but im going to over the next 25k hands(3days) change it up to stealing alil more in certain spots & 3bet bluffing more vs good villains so hopefully play 14/12/3 4-5% 3bet to 15/13/ 5-6% 3bet


glad im up $250 though & slowing gaining confidence to move back to 25nl & to ultimately move to 100nl, far way to go though...

how many tables u playing now exo?

I got 1k hands in this evening. Was planning on playing a bit lower but I saw some good games. I didn't play that well and was kind of auto-piloting. I bluffed in a few bad spots, and ran not so well in others when I flopped top set and then had to fold river when all the draws hit. Ended down about a buy-in but was down more before.

Too spewy, I felt like even against a set I had some decent equity with full house/flush and chop outs. It wasn't a good spot.

Hand #1
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $5.87
SB: $4.83
BB: $14.80
UTG: $17.81
Hero (MP): $5.73
CO: $3.72

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with T K A 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) J 4 K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.34, BTN folds, BB raises to $1.47, Hero calls $1.13

Turn: ($3.41) T (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero raises to $4.11 all in, BB calls $0.86

River: ($11.63) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $11.63
BB shows Q J 4 K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Hero shows T K A 8 (two pair, Kings and Tens)
BB wins $11.06
(Rake: $0.57)

I decided to mix it up from UTG. I should stop though as it's annoying losing big pots with these stupid hands. Fortunately this wasn't one of them, bit of a weird line by villain.

Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $6.00
Hero (UTG): $5.00
CO: $10.35
BTN: $4.04
SB: $8.98

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 8 6 8 7
Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) 5 4 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.38, CO calls $0.38, SB calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.64) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, CO raises to $5.76, SB folds, Hero calls $3.07 all in

River: ($10.58) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.58
Hero shows 8 6 8 7 (a straight, Five to Nine)
CO shows 2 2 A T (a straight, Ace to Five)
Hero wins $10.06
(Rake: $0.52)

I had been dealt AAxx twice in a row and this was #3. I hate to 4bet OOP but given dynamics I thought I could get villain to spazz out and also put enough of my stack in pre. The flop was as good as I could hope for and was able to get it in and dodge the outs.

Hand #3
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $7.39
BTN: $12.11
Hero (SB): $6.99
BB: $7.50
UTG: $5.00
MP: $5.83

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A 6 A 6
2 folds, CO raises to $0.17, BTN raises to $0.58, Hero raises to $1.96, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.38

Flop: ($4.14) 3 7 A (2 players)
Hero bets $3.94, BTN raises to $10.15 all in, Hero calls $1.09 all in

Turn: ($14.20) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($14.20) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $14.20
BTN shows 8 9 Q T (a pair of Threes)
Hero shows A 6 A 6 (a full house, Aces full of Threes)
Hero wins $13.50
(Rake: $0.70)

Bit of an annoying hand, one I wouldn't normally play. I had blockers to the straight. 77% equity on the flop, 52.50% on the turn. I pretty much have to call vs the nuts on the turn.

Hand #4
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $12.03
BTN: $6.16
SB: $27.69
BB: $16.79
Hero (UTG): $5.00
MP: $8.40

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 9 8 9 T
Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) T 4 8 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.48, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.48

Turn: ($1.56) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $4.49, Hero calls $3.37 all in

River: ($10.30) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.30
BB shows T Q 7 9 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Hero shows 9 8 9 T (two pair, Tens and Eights)
BB wins $9.79
(Rake: $0.51)

This was one of my most nerve racking moments. I had won the $13.50 off villain previously and we had a bit of a history forming. I decided to 3bet because of position even though it can sort of start turning hands face up. I bet flop and wasn't keen on the call. On the turn I decided to bluff with nut blocker and wasn't thrilled to get called. I was faced with the river decision of bluffing or losing. I wasn't really sure if I could bluff villain off weaker flushes. But I figured there was a decent chance I could get him to fold 2 pair/straight/sets. He really tanked and I was ready to tilt if called but fortunately I got my bluff through.

Hand #5
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $7.71
Hero (CO): $13.42
BTN: $7.65
SB: $5.00
BB: $6.02

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with A 9 A K
UTG raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.23

Flop: ($0.87) 9 8 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.49, UTG calls $0.49

Turn: ($1.85) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG calls $1.30

River: ($4.45) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG folds

Final Pot: $4.45
Hero mucks A 9 A K
Hero wins $4.24
(Rake: $0.21)

NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($11.85)
Hero ($11.54)
UTG ($3.15)
UTG+1 ($4.59)
CO ($3.33)
BTN ($10.52)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.40, CO raises to $1, fold, fold, Hero ???

UTG is 14/1 over 70 hands. I know it's a small sample size but 1/70 is still pretty minuscule! If he had a normal stack, could you fold to a 5bet here? I'd have to tank, at least. Luckily he's short, so...

Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $4.19 (AI), CO calls $2.33 (AI)

FLOP ($12.56) 9 K 5

TURN ($12.56) 9 K 5 5

RIVER ($12.56) 9 K 5 5 8

Hero shows K K
(Pre 18%, Flop 63.8%, Turn 95.2%)

UTG+1 shows A A
(Pre 66%, Flop 35.1%, Turn 4.8%)

CO shows T T
(Pre 16%, Flop 1.1%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero wins $11.94

I deposited $100 on Merge around 4/26 and over the last 4 months have doubled up to $200. Strictly recreational player, evenings and weekends, but serious about improving my game. I play mostly $1, $2, and $3 SNG's (243 SNG's) and $2 and $3 MTTs - NLHE, PLO, and PLHE/PLO mixed games (50 MTTs).

All my profit is from the MTTs and a few cash games (playing 4NL), so I was thinking of setting a goal of playing 10 $5 MTTs this month which would be half my profit so far and if it doesn't go well, I have no problem going back to the $2 and $3 games and grinding back up.

My question is are 50 MTTs played enough of a sample to take a shot at this? Or should I just keep doing what I'm doing at lower stakes until I have enough to move up.

Any advice is appreciated.