Sick swings in the turbos.. I had a long breakeven stretch that I snapped out of by having like an 80% ROI over 150 games or so. Just keep grinding away.

I played live poker for the first time in my life today. Granted i only played for an hour but i dont understand why people say its so profitable when the rake and tip are so ridiculous. Maybe its because i was playing on one of those bad beat jackpot tables but the rake was just crazy. I ended up winning 2 bucks after an hour but i probably wont be playing much live after that.

Yea I know - I'm not fussed - I'm happy with how I played - Made good resteals and got them to call me off light

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $150(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,370)
Hero ($2,740)
UTG ($735)
UTG+1 ($2,420)
CO ($2,005)
BTN ($2,230)

Dealt to Hero A Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $450, fold, Hero raises to $2,740 (AI), BTN calls $1,780 (AI)

FLOP ($4,535) 2 7 3

TURN ($4,535) 2 7 3 8

RIVER ($4,535) 2 7 3 8 8

Hero shows A Q
(Pre 68%, Flop 85.7%, Turn 6.8%)

BTN shows 8 A
(Pre 32%, Flop 14.3%, Turn 93.2%)

BTN wins $4,535

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
SB ($4,446)
Hero ($3,745)
UTG ($2,850)
UTG+1 ($4,243)
UTG+2 ($4,133)
CO ($1,641)
BTN ($5,942)

Dealt to Hero A 7

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $420, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3,745 (AI), CO calls $1,221 (AI)

FLOP ($3,382) 4 K K

TURN ($3,382) 4 K K 4

RIVER ($3,382) 4 K K 4 3

Hero shows A 7
(Pre 59%, Flop 3.9%, Turn 0.0%)

CO shows 5 K
(Pre 41%, Flop 96.1%, Turn 100.0%)

CO wins $3,382

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,645)
BB ($5,070)
UTG ($4,720)
UTG+1 ($4,305)
UTG+2 ($4,433)
CO ($6,107)
BTN ($720)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $695 (AI), Hero calls $595, fold

FLOP ($1,765) Q 9 4

TURN ($1,765) Q 9 4 T

RIVER ($1,765) Q 9 4 T K

BTN shows J T
(Pre 15%, Flop 26.7%, Turn 34.1%)

Hero shows K K
(Pre 85%, Flop 73.3%, Turn 65.9%)

BTN wins $1,765

Just need to up my volume and win more flips

you are doing it wrong. stack your tables. why do you even look if you won or not? you put the $$$ in the middle most of the time good or just spite some regbastard on the bubble who pushed 5 times bvb.
after you pushed or called you know what you are doing when you stack? you move on. cause you have 23 more tables that need your UNDIVIDED attention. and hopefully after 5k sngs luck evens out and you have a positive roi or just be a rakeback bitch

Solution: Don't play at a casino with a bad rake structure and don't tip every time you win a pot. Also you realize you're basing an opinion off like a 40 hand (MAYBE) sample size?

A villain has raised BvB, called your 3bet OOP, check called 2 streets on an Ace Hi bored and donk shoves 70bb on the river when the draw completes. I think you are beat close to 100% of the time here.

When I play live poker I don't find it profitable mainly because it's so slow. Average of 35 hands/hour? That's like 5 minutes worth of hands for me online when I'm multitabling. When people always spout off about sample size when someone posts about variance in a topic, it would take years for someone to get a good sample size in live play even though it is softer.

Yes you can't get a large sample size to figure out your winrate but forming an opinion on just about anything based off only an hour of experience is flawed.

Marklarz, congrats on the win!

I know what I'm doing - Trust me

I do care if I win money or not - since it determines if I'm going to continue playing or just stop for the day.

I only play 10-12 tables @ a time - Even though I can 24+ table pretty easily - I just find I play alot better when I have 10-12 tables.

I mean the game was reasonably soft. A couple of nits, a few "reg TAGs" and then mostly loose passive players who limp alot. It was definitely a beatable game, i just dont like the rake and the tip. Those guys were tipping after every pot. That appeared to be the standard at the table. I didn't want to look like a douche if i was the only one who didn't tip the dealer a buck after winning a whopping 12 dollar pot.

The $1.50 + 0.25 18 man turbos.

Is it just me or does the rake seem to really crush your winrate?

I thank the poker gods for coolers.. or I'd be down today... playing god awful, really glad I hopped down levels to shake some rust.

you are spending part of your playing time watching a random number generator

and letting the results of that random number generator determine whether you continue.

I am a great fan of 'do what works for you' but would make an exception for masochists

it won't help. Of course this fact will keep decent competition away so they might be pretty soft.


Congratz Marklarz tried a few MTT over the weekend lost but they are always fun.
Back in the $5 Fifty50 saddle today 68 tourneys +$26.26 7.37% roi
puts me at 2522 tourneys +$1250.98 9.47% roi

sick part was i was gunna lose minimum otf as i had him on aces pf
Full Tilt - $0.10 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $17.37
BB: $4.35
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $7.91
MP: $15.98
MP+1: $4.15
LP: $10.06
CO: $24.30
BTN: $3.90

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.35, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($0.80, 2 players) 9 A 8
Hero checks, CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.60, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($1.60, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $16.62 and is all-in, CO calls $15.12

Hero shows 8 8 (Four of a Kind, Eights) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 98%)
CO mucks A A (Full House, Aces full of Eights) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins $32.84

I played a ton of hands and I ran like the old masq. I wasn't fortunate in some spots and ran into some annoying setups. I did play one or two hands badly one of which was I was a bit tilted by this huge nit at my table who was running amazing against me. I picked up AKKTds and I raised and the SB (not the nit) 3bet and we ended up getting it all in pre. I don't usually do this with KKxx but I figured I had an A making AAxx a bit less likely. But of course they had AAxxsss holding my suit and I lost a buy-in feeling a bit stupid. I was stuck a few buy-ins, then up a little then back down a few. I did start to run a bit better and hit some royal flushes which didn't really get paid off and some of my hands started to hit and hold. After 2100 hands finished +$8.

This hand tilted me. I had a good feeling villain didn't flop the nuts and was most likely calling with some hand like AKxx. I fired river as a bluff hoping I could get them to fold

Hand #1
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $9.56
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $4.06
CO: $3.16
BTN: $12.50

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 6 7 A 3
3 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) A 4 3 (2 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.10) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

River: ($6.10) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.95 all in, SB calls $1.95

Final Pot: $10.00
SB shows T 3 A 9 (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Hero shows 6 7 A 3 (two pair, Aces and Fours)
SB wins $9.52
(Rake: $0.48)

This was hand vs nit. He tilts me so bad

Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $11.24
Hero (MP): $5.25
CO: $5.00
BTN: $4.82
SB: $5.00
BB: $12.52

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with 7 8 A A
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.57, BB calls $1.07

Flop: ($3.21) 7 T 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.05, BB raises to $6.10, Hero calls $0.63 all in

Turn: ($10.57) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.57) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.57
Hero shows 7 8 A A (a pair of Aces)
BB shows T J Q 8 (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
BB wins $10.05
(Rake: $0.52)

I liked this hand.

Hand #3
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $5.35
CO: $6.77
BTN: $6.12
SB: $5.13
BB: $12.71
UTG: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with Q A 9 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.52, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.11) 8 J T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.06, Hero raises to $3.10, BTN raises to $5.14, Hero calls $1.73 all in

Turn: ($10.77) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.77) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.77
Hero shows Q A 9 5 (a straight, Ten to Ace)
BTN shows K 8 Q 9 (a straight, Nine to King)
Hero wins $10.24
(Rake: $0.53)

My biggest hand of the session. Villain was such a fish

Hand #4
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $28.70
SB: $6.28
BB: $13.79
UTG: $14.41
Hero (CO): $7.47

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with T A A 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.17, BTN raises to $0.29, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.51

Flop: ($1.67) A K 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, BTN calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.47) J (2 players)
Hero bets $4.26, BTN calls $4.26

River: ($12.99) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.01 all in, BTN calls $1.01

Final Pot: $15.01
BTN shows 7 J 3 Q (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Hero shows T A A 8 (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero wins $14.30
(Rake: $0.71)

I didn't realise villain had flopped quads. Bit of a beat...

Hand #5
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $0.76
CO: $9.79
BTN: $21.00
SB: $7.23
Hero (BB): $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 4 K K 7
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) A K A (3 players)
SB bets $0.57, Hero raises to $2.28, UTG folds, SB calls $1.71

Turn: ($5.16) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.59 all in, SB calls $2.59

River: ($10.34) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $10.34
SB shows A Q A T (four of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows 4 K K 7 (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
SB wins $9.84
(Rake: $0.50)

I guess this is pretty standard. The nit in me was thinking to check turn but I thought maybe I could win the hand 1 of 2 ways so I jammed it.

Hand #6
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $5.55
MP: $3.22
CO: $12.50
Hero (BTN): $5.79
SB: $4.41
BB: $12.50

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A 9 A 4
UTG raises to $0.17, MP calls $0.17, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.53, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.64) 3 5 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.04) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.85, UTG calls $3.65 all in

River: ($11.34) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $11.34
UTG shows Q 6 6 J (a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows A 9 A 4 (a straight, Ace to Five)
Hero wins $10.79
(Rake: $0.55)

Apologies for the hands, just I seem to run well posting in this thread and my goals thread creates run bad.

Anyone here got any experience beating 10nl rush that wouldn't mind giving me a hand?

PS RnG Turns me On

Regarding the $1.75's - The rake sucks - but the players are even worst - so you'll easily be able to beat the $1.75's.

The rake @ the $3.40's is crap as well - Will be moving to the $6.50's when I'm happy with where I'm at.

@cha4zz

10NL Rush > Me - I gave up playing.

Enprinte, did you play normal 10nl? Lot of difference I'm guessing, i'm really struggling to play rush, just seems to be coolers everywhere.

rush just seems like a nightmare as u move up. 5nl has the most players and is the fishiest, then beyond that the player pool shrinks and shrinks.

weee new thread!!! I started my job today so my grinding time has been significantly reduced. I did ship 2nd place in the $25 2+2 marchmadness pool for $150 so i can comfortably play 25NL. dont think i can 24 table yes but will def be playing 20 tonight for at least an hour

unsure of realistic goals with this new job and most likely an active weekend social life so i'll wait and see

is it my fault not shipping hands like this? i guess i don't expect people to flat.

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $3.77
BB: $6.97
Hero (UTG): $11.28
UTG+1: $12.20
UTG+2: $7.31
MP1: $8.85
MP2: $2.01
CO: $6.04
BTN: $4.51

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.20, 4 folds, CO calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.22) T 6 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $9.78 all in, BB calls $1.47 all in

Turn: ($14.16) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($14.16) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $14.16
BB shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
BB wins $13.22
(Rake: $0.94)

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP2: $1.96
CO: $5.17
BTN: $1.72
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $4.54
UTG: $10.25
UTG+1: $4.97
UTG+2: $1.97
MP1: $3.95

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with J J
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.05, BB calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.10) 3 8 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Turn: ($6.10) K (2 players)
Hero bets $1.95 all in, BB calls $1.49 all in

River: ($9.08) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $9.08
Hero shows J J (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
BB shows 8 8 (four of a kind, Eights)
BB wins $8.48
(Rake: $0.60)

10NL (Non-Rush) is easier than 10NL Rush I've found.

meh 10nl rush is still fishy....and its not hard at all if your running decent, and the rb is nice got like $14 yesterday lol.

Congrats wisdommaster1 on your pool.