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04-20-2012 , 08:13 AM
I know some things have to change, but I dont know what. yet. am working on it
04-20-2012 , 01:20 PM
Dropped another 4BI this session - the past 4 sessions have been ridiculous in terms of suckouts. I think I'm calling the river too wide but apart from that I just don't think I'm do all that much wrong, just stuff like I have top two pair OOP and villain has fired two barrels already. Then on a blank river he bets pot and no hands make any sense to play this way so I call and they show something like a rivered set - I must be wrong everytime I call a large river bet but I just never believe they've hit it on the river but inevitably they have.

Lost some huge pots to coolers, 150bb when I flopped a set and villain turned a striaght with 78o. 150bb when I 4bet AA, villain flatted, board came Kxx and I cbet, he calls and we get it in on turn and he flips over KK. And finally 150bb when I had QQ on a 789xT board where villain had J6s - villain was an absolute idiot but everytime I actually get a big hand I get the worst board run outs ever.

My red line for the month is now +600bb but my blue line has plummitted so I've got the opposite problem to most other micro players; how the hell do I get my blue line back in the +?! I think my aggressiveness is still better than my old style but I think I'm leveling myself into thinking that people are playing back at me light too which makes me call too wide etc.
04-20-2012 , 02:02 PM
do any of you guys know which episodes of deuce plays have andy siedman interviews in? I have found 109 and 110 but I understand there are 2 more shows.
04-20-2012 , 03:54 PM
16.5k hands at 2NL. Ill be leaving for 5nl very shortly, I think I qualify.
I love the run good at the end

because of my run good I got AA and KK all in 3 times on dry flops. All three times I got stacked by a set.
I soon sucked it in and got on with it. Live and learn. Its hard to give creddit at this level. I see so much cr@p moving all in that I cant fold AA or KK on a dry flop. I will give more respect later on in higher limits. I make more good plays than bad at the moment so im still winning.


hand of the day... the old "one two teddy"



    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12629032

    CO: $5 (250 bb)
    BTN: $2.55 (127.5 bb)
    SB: $0.80 (40 bb)
    Hero (BB): $7.45 (372.5 bb)
    UTG: $2.09 (104.5 bb)
    MP: $0.78 (39 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, MP folds, CO raises to $0.54, Hero raises to $7.04, CO calls $4.46 and is all-in

    Flop: ($10.03) 8 7 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($10.03) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($10.03) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $10.03 pot ($0.30 rake)
    Final Board: 8 7 2 6 5
    CO showed K A and lost (-$5 net)
    Hero showed A A and won $9.73 ($4.73 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    16.5k hands in 8 days. $56 profit. im very happy with 12 tables now.


    04-20-2012 , 03:58 PM
    raikkonen - fold more. If the runner runner straight or flush hits on teh river and they shove - fold.
    04-20-2012 , 04:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chad0x00
    raikkonen - fold more. If the runner runner straight or flush hits on teh river and they shove - fold.
    this is my biggest downfall atm too. If I have a lot of hands to deal with I often make bad calls in these spots and then want to smash my mouse.
    04-20-2012 , 04:23 PM
    Play at NL5 and run like god; 4BI in 200 hands. Go back to NL10 and just get crushed; lose 2.5BI (so my profit from NL5) in 200 hands. Some guy hit his gutshot on the river when I had raised the flop and bet 3/4 pot on turn with TPTK - I hate this game sometimes. Really should of folded river but tilt is getting to me now. :/

    Going to finish off for the night as it's not been my day, don't know what it is about NL10 but I just can't seem to master it. Everytime I drop down to NL5 I crush and run good but at NL10 I play and run awful. I'm just not thinking at all sometimes and it's really costing me, I don't know how I play so bad at NL10 as I don't think the players are any better (if so not by that much imo) - I think they are just more aggro.
    04-20-2012 , 04:28 PM
    the only difference is the amount of money in front of you. build your roll more at 5nl before playing 10nl so a couple of suckouts dont bother you so much. you wouldnt be too upset if you lost 2 x 5nl buyins right?
    04-20-2012 , 05:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Leikman
    Quick evening session in the bank. Got some RL stuff to do so heading off atm.

    Nothing spectacular


    Gonna start adding 25NL tables again when my roll is around $650

    BR-480.28
    Oh snap its been 2.5 days since Ive updated my results! Must not go inactive!

    been putting in some semireasonable numbers
    Last 3 days
    8.23hours 5559 hands +60.79


    So about 10 BIs more at 10nl, then ima add some 25NL tables to the mix

    BR-$525.18
    04-20-2012 , 05:37 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Leikman


    Sick start to the graph. I bet it feels good to be back up after that.
    04-20-2012 , 05:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raikkonen3
    Everytime I drop down to NL5 I crush and run good but at NL10 I play and run awful. I'm just not thinking at all sometimes and it's really costing me, I don't know how I play so bad at NL10 as I don't think the players are any better (if so not by that much imo) - I think they are just more aggro.
    I used to have this problem when I first moved up to 20nl. I thought everyone was better and more aggro and bluffing more. They aren't, or not often enough for it to really matter anyway. The game u play at 5nl will win at 10nl without any adjustment, just stick to your game and you'll be ok. As has been said tho, maybe get a few more BIs before u move up so a couple of coolers don't matter so much
    04-20-2012 , 05:49 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3pidemic
    These posts are usually followed by "im broke".
    just saying. Bad idea.
    $4nl is not for people who want to stay at the micros forever, its for people who want to play poker and not go broke. How big is your bankroll or was your bankroll? $25?
    You missed the sarcasm. And don't worry about me, I don't play enough volume to go broke.
    04-20-2012 , 05:50 PM
    Hey everyone
    I've been reading and studying a lot lately and I think husngs are the way to go for me to build up my bankroll right now. It's still very small right now, right around $80, so I'm starting at the lowest levels carbon offers. Hopefully I can move up through these first few levels fairly quickly, cause I'm not a huge fan of hyper husng, but I still feel like I could have enough of a edge to make them profitable. I'm using a 35 bi rule, and I'm hoping to make it up the $10 level by the end of the month. It's pretty aggressive, but I think if I keep my focus and play smart I can get there
    04-20-2012 , 07:37 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by meekrab
    You missed the sarcasm. And don't worry about me, I don't play enough volume to go broke.
    Yeah Im like sheldon Im not very good with sarcasm
    04-20-2012 , 10:15 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3pidemic
    Yeah Im like sheldon Im not very good with sarcasm




    I actually decided to play today, weeeeeeeeeeeee
    04-21-2012 , 05:09 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3pidemic
    Sick start to the graph. I bet it feels good to be back up after that.
    Lol yeah. Long story short I think 2 of those drops were at euro tables so long story short the drops are pretty remarkable if I lose a BI there. Long story short I think I did not even notice how big the drop was until I had already, long story short, grinded half of it back so long story short it did not seem that bad
    04-21-2012 , 05:28 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Leikman
    Lol yeah. Long story short I think 2 of those drops were at euro tables so long story short the drops are pretty remarkable if I lose a BI there. Long story short I think I did not even notice how big the drop was until I had already, long story short, grinded half of it back so long story short it did not seem that bad
    [ ] Long story short.

    04-21-2012 , 05:52 AM
    Soooo, I've decided not to play on Everleaf anymore and will be withdrawing my role after my latest RB payment on tuesday.

    I've got 200 Euros on there atm and have had that as a base amount playing 20nl, withdrawing back to e200 when I reached e500 (because of worries with site winding up, FTP style, and losing any large amounts I had on there).

    There just isn't any traffic on there anymore, and when I do play it's either a table full of regbots, or super-shortstacked crazy fish.

    I'm basically finding it too difficult to keep up with what the aggro fish are pot donking with, and when you're isoing to 4-5bbs, and they only have 20 behind anyway, i'm not making enough off them to make it worth it.

    I know in theory playing against crazy fish is +EV, and it was when they used to come on full-stacked, but it just doesn't happen anymore, and I've found myself sitting at 50nl tables just to play against the crazy fish there that have 50bbs - but that obviously leads to trouble againts the regs, and suckouts hurt more as my roll can't take that yet.

    Going to continue with my Zoom grind challenge (2nl up - currently at 5nl) which I'm enjoying, and will leave my role on 888 for playing normal speed 20nl sometimes.
    04-21-2012 , 07:19 AM
    I played some 5nl today, about 1.5k hands. I finished up but hardly.

    I really noticed the difference in play at this level. more 3 betting. more agression and double barreling. I was not impressed. It caught me off guard.

    A few bad beats which ****ed up my graph didnt help either.

    04-21-2012 , 10:53 AM
    hey, haven't really posted in this forum, but i've been around 2+2 for awhile, but been a losing /breakeven player with rakeback for along time, jumping around everywhere, (started career shortstacking, moved to sngs, tried hold em cash but had no post flop skills, started plo2 and plo5) but after $140 under ev in the last couple months i decided to go to holdem, so im playing nl5 zoom, for... well tried it on thursday for the first time, don't know that much and im a beginner so i'll be around.

    graph since thursday



    took a small shot at nl10 but lost 2 bi and moved back to nl5
    04-21-2012 , 10:55 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dunna100
    Soooo, I've decided not to play on Everleaf anymore and will be withdrawing my role after my latest RB payment on tuesday.

    I've got 200 Euros on there atm and have had that as a base amount playing 20nl, withdrawing back to e200 when I reached e500 (because of worries with site winding up, FTP style, and losing any large amounts I had on there).

    There just isn't any traffic on there anymore, and when I do play it's either a table full of regbots, or super-shortstacked crazy fish.

    I'm basically finding it too difficult to keep up with what the aggro fish are pot donking with, and when you're isoing to 4-5bbs, and they only have 20 behind anyway, i'm not making enough off them to make it worth it.

    I know in theory playing against crazy fish is +EV, and it was when they used to come on full-stacked, but it just doesn't happen anymore, and I've found myself sitting at 50nl tables just to play against the crazy fish there that have 50bbs - but that obviously leads to trouble againts the regs, and suckouts hurt more as my roll can't take that yet.

    Going to continue with my Zoom grind challenge (2nl up - currently at 5nl) which I'm enjoying, and will leave my role on 888 for playing normal speed 20nl sometimes.
    where you playing on the euro 4 man tables? I played there last summer while i was back home in america, it was amazingly soft at all times... also depends alot on the time of day that you play imo
    04-21-2012 , 11:12 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Leikman
    Lol yeah. Long story short I think 2 of those drops were at euro tables so long story short the drops are pretty remarkable if I lose a BI there. Long story short I think I did not even notice how big the drop was until I had already, long story short, grinded half of it back so long story short it did not seem that bad
    zipliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine ! welcome back leikman
    04-21-2012 , 12:25 PM
    After my downswing then I am welcoming to a session like this! It appears my new style may be a bit swingy, in the first 1K hands I was on a huge heater and was hitting everything (must of got KK 10+ times). I kept playing because I felt I was playing well too but as you can see the graph tails off a bit - just not much action really and still feel I didn't make that many mistakes so I'm very pleased with this session.

    04-21-2012 , 01:16 PM
    raikkonen what limit is that again?
    04-21-2012 , 01:21 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3pidemic
    raikkonen what limit is that again?
    NL10.

          
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