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11-11-2010 , 08:36 PM

bandt232

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OK so this might belong in a diff forum but I was just curious as to your guys thoughts.
I play 25 NL rush. Since there are basically no reads in rush poker and no need to "mix it up" since no one will see you more than a few times a session, your preflop range should be totally consistent regardless of your table (correct me if wrong). Therefore there should be an "ideal" range playing pre in every position, and assuming no one has entered pot what is this opening range?

Cliffs: what range should you adopt for preflop 25 NL rush in all positions, assuming no one has entered pot.

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11-11-2010 , 09:52 PM

Regal_Stacks

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just fold until you get aces on rush

every ****ing time i get kings,queens,or jacks, and the board is something like 2-7-10r i bet, someone raises, i go over the top and they ALWAYS have aces.. i lost like 6 BI's at NL5 Rush ALL TO ACES..

-edit ACES ACES ACES ACES ACES!!!!!!!!

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11-11-2010 , 10:00 PM

chris_tain

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minraise a bunch.. unless they have aces they will fold like cheap lawnchairs and you can profit from that. any position..minraise cos they'll interpret it as you're dying for action with ur monster hand AA

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11-11-2010 , 10:03 PM

Texans24

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Originally Posted by chris_tain

whenever anyone min raises in rush i 5 pop and they always fold.

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11-11-2010 , 10:10 PM

bandt232

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haha. thanks guys yeah i was jw cuz there has to be like a "perfect strategy" for rush, since no one has any reads and you dont need to adapt or maintain a table image.

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11-11-2010 , 10:13 PM

kmd107

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Originally Posted by bandt232

haha. thanks guys yeah i was jw cuz there has to be like a "perfect strategy" for rush, since no one has any reads and you dont need to adapt or maintain a table image.

you are way oversimplifying rush, there is no way a perfect strategy,

no reads...yeah sure, my hud works fine.

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11-12-2010 , 01:19 AM

Lego05

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When I play Rush (not too often) I have reads and notes .... and stats ........ and I'll play differently depending on the players at the table and how they are arranged.

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11-12-2010 , 05:05 AM

Bad Beat Wizard

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Originally Posted by bandt232

Play tight. About 17/15 6max and 12/10 FR is good.

I've played a bunch of Rush and found that people are tighter, have narrower ranges, valuebet less and have stronger hands at showdown

Other than that it's not a whole lot different to normal. I used to think it is, but it's really not that much. Be prepared for people showing you really weird lines and it throws you off balance once in a while but you don't have to change your game fundamentally to compensate.

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11-12-2010 , 09:33 AM

LOLpokermon

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if people are nits i'm not playing 17/15 ducy

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11-12-2010 , 10:10 AM

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DeckardCain

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Originally Posted by Lego05

When I play Rush (not too often) I have reads and notes .... and stats ........ and I'll play differently depending on the players at the table and how they are arranged.

best advice itt

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11-12-2010 , 02:00 PM

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csull23

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All I know is that I'm thankful there are people playing rush that think there are no reads, that only play QQ+, and that limp fold every pot.

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11-18-2010 , 08:15 PM

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OldRod_KS

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I played about 6 hours of Rush today (first time playing it). One thing I noticed is that there seemed to be a lot more sets because people were playing more pocket pairs it looked to me like. I saw a lot of showdowns where it was set vs. set.

First 30 minutes of playing, I'm up 250bb and I thought "Yeah!"

An hour later I took two horrible beats (AAA lost to straight, Nut flush lost to full house) and I thought "Aww ****"

5 hours later, I'm about even with where I started, but I got a crap load of FPP

Kinda curious to see what the rakeback looks like for today's session.

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11-18-2010 , 08:22 PM

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ReidLockhart

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Too much "always" "never" and "every time" in this thread.

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11-18-2010 , 08:58 PM

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andyg2001

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Originally Posted by bandt232

I play 25 NL rush. Since there are basically no reads in rush poker and no need to "mix it up"

I play 25nl FR, and have have over 5k hands on some players. I also have notes on some of the players.

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11-18-2010 , 09:04 PM

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tomdig

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3 bet from the SB + continuation bet seems to work far more profitably than normal ring.

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11-18-2010 , 11:15 PM

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uke_master

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if you 4 table with any regularity you develop tonnes of notes and stats pretty quickly and as such decisions are exactly as they are at 6 max: look at the villians and make decisions based on that, not some ideal.

That said, you can be exploitably loose in lots of LP spots because you won't be exploited.

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11-19-2010 , 10:17 AM

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OldRod_KS

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How do you play 4 tables at once? It goes so fast, I barely had time to keep up with 1 table. I guess it's an acquired skill, like 24 tabling ring games?

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That said, you can be exploitably loose in lots of LP spots because you won't be exploited.

I noticed that yesterday as well. In CO/Btn/SB I was able play a much wider range, assuming someone hadn't already raised in front of me.

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01-28-2011 , 09:22 AM

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cannonwillow

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play tight (12/10 is on the loose side). take notes, pay attention to your HUD, and call down lighter than you think you should. take more chances when your stack is less than 200 BBs. Pot control is so much easier if you have a big stack in rush (whether you are trying to keep it small or trying to get stacks in). Give no respect to shortys. When I have the nuts I want to have everyone covered to maximize profit. It sucks winning 70BBs when I could have won 200BBs (or at least 100BBs)

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01-28-2011 , 10:16 AM

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Schoolboy

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Originally Posted by OldRod_KS

Kinda curious to see what the rakeback looks like for today's session.

rakeback is huge compared with regular cash games because u can play so many extra hands. i was 8 tabling it for a few hours here and there over 2 days (roughly about 4-5 hours over the space of 2 days) and it gave a huge boost to my RB.

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01-28-2011 , 01:40 PM

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1skander

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Originally Posted by OldRod_KS

How do you play 4 tables at once? It goes so fast, I barely had time to keep up with 1 table. I guess it's an acquired skill, like 24 tabling ring games?

I noticed that yesterday as well. In CO/Btn/SB I was able play a much wider range, assuming someone hadn't already raised in front of me.

You don't have to auto fold as soon as your cards are dealt. Wait till its your turn to act if you have a decision on another table, esp in late position.

This also lets you see a whole table of nit regs instafold to a min raise from a 75bb fish when you are on the button...

Last edited by 1skander; 01-28-2011 at 01:57 PM.

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