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$.02BB 6-NLHE JJ Was Shove Right? $.02BB 6-NLHE JJ Was Shove Right?

08-17-2009 , 11:26 AM
I had JJ in the SB against a BB that had some stats that I hadn't really seen yet. I am looking back at the hand and am thinking that I might have made a mistake given the opponent.

After the flop the BB would have had position but at least I would have had the chance to dump for a fairly inexpensive loss if the board didn't look right. The BB was also a fairly tight player and I hadn't seen him really re-raise with much less than a monster hand (large pairs and suited AK/AQ). He did limp or min-raise from late with nobody ahead of him going in with smaller hands but I had only seen a re-raise like he made in this hand with the BB holding something big.

Does having a lack of position after the flop justify a shove pre-flop with JJ even against a player who was playing like the BB had been?

BB was 16/16/∞

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($1.05)
Hero (SB) ($5.39)
BB ($6.10)
UTG ($3.82)
MP ($1.93)
CO ($1.18)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.08, BB raises to $0.16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.39 (All-In)

Total pot: $0.34

I do play scared on 99/TT/JJ/QQ and tend to try and shove them rather than play them out (playing these hands after the flop is something I really need improvement with). KK and AA I would gladly shove if I was expecting a call. 88 and below I will typically just reserve for set mining or playing aggressively with against someone with a large range on a board that I think is friendly to me in the situation.

I appreciate any input you can offer on this hand and on playing with 99/TT/JJ/QQ.
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08-17-2009 , 11:42 AM
def not, only better is calling u here being aa or kk, and sometimes ppl will u with ak- this is assuming that the player has basic hand strengh knownledge

You are like 270bb deep, u have 2 choices, 3bet him to 50c/60c or smooth call IP and see the flop.

with 99/10 10 i flat call, and play the flop, with jj-qq i prob lean to 3betting coz u have position but if he 4 bets me at this limit and he has tag/tagfish stats im putting him on premium hand, aa-kk and i prob only call his 4bet which is prob really bad, but thats just me, im not confident on 5bettng allin 270bb deep with jj, not so deep- 100bb i prob shove
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08-17-2009 , 01:55 PM
whenever u shove 250 bb into a 20 bb pot there's something wrong.
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