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Old 05-26-2017, 11:54 PM   #1
Mr.Jones
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Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

I've been playing poker on and off since the boom, but never put in enough work to be a real winner. Fundamentally I've always been strong, I just suffer from tilt issues.

(yes I understand you can tilt in blackjack as well but I feel like I'd be able to reset faster and just play like a robot)

I've always stayed away from the table games, maybe a fun bet here and there, but since I was 21 I've always known you can't beat them and I've stayed away.

Which brings us to blackjack. Is it worth learning how to card count, and all the intricacies associated with being successful at the game?

I'm not talking about just reading a book and increasing my edge while betting for fun, but I'm talking seriously learning the game, practicing with software and all that.

Can I make reliable money doing this?

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Old 05-26-2017, 11:58 PM   #2
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

If I were starting from scratch today, I wouldn't bother.
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Old 05-27-2017, 01:16 PM   #3
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

Yes, you can make money, but I wouldn't call it reliable. It's easy to learn to count. It sucks dealing with smokers, *******s, morons and degenerates that frequent the blackjack tables. It is difficult to sustain a reasonable winrate for your risk when the casino can notice what you're doing and ask you to leave at any time. You can get around this typically playing short sessions, but this causes a lot of down time where you are making no money at all, and the casino will still catch you eventually even if you have the best cover and never stay longer than an hour.

Generally ignoring these aspects poker is a more profitable game. Some blackjack games are more profitable per risk than poker, but these games are rare and often more closely watched.
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Old 05-28-2017, 10:07 PM   #4
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

if you want to learn it to help negate some of the house edge when you play casually, I'd say go for it.

if you want to learn it thinking it'll provide you a steady source of income, I'd say don't bother.
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:36 PM   #5
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

I deal tables and can tell you that it can work but you need to be even more devoted to thinking about not getting caught as you are with being skilled at counting.

I've seen plenty of players who could count great but gave zero thought to how to blend in or playing at the optimal time and they ended up getting walked off before they could really do any damage. Play when the specific casino is having a big event/concert and surveillance/security/ floor staff will be very busy. Play when other big action is happening. Do not play long. Get in and get out ASAP.

Oh yeah if you want to count, some tipping will definitely help you stay longer.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:11 PM   #6
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

Anyone have any other thoughts on this?
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:41 AM   #7
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

It's a good idea if you're looking to gamble for fun but it's not a great way to make money in 2017
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Old 09-15-2017, 01:42 PM   #8
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

Given your threads about losing 20 Powerball tickets in a row, I don't think card counting is for you.
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:14 PM   #9
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Re: Is it worth learning Blackjack / Card counting?

Card counting in BJ can be worth it if you:

1) like to sit at BJ tables and try to hide that you are a counter, especially
when it's about the first thing all the pit bosses and eyes in the sky look
for...
2) enjoy memorizing and counting cards in a furtive way
3) can grind it out for hours on end without getting tired
4) be satisfied with any winnings at all
5) like sitting next to clueless players and smokers
6) can accept that you won't get anywhere near rich unless you play whale
level stakes and get extremely lucky
7) think that the whole process is a fun pastime regardless of how little money
you actually make
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