IMHO you are better off playing a $2 single line game ($10 a push).

Plus, you need to make sure the full pay game is giving the same amount of points per coin in. I don't know MLife as well, but at Caesars properties if it is a full pay game it is 1 point for every $25 in where other games are 1 point for every $10 coin in VP.

Depends on your goals but 10-play 25c has way lower variance over the same amount of coin-in.

If you have a loss rebate or something (or if you like to gamble and want a shot at a big win!), variance is your friend, but if you just want to get your points while minimizing your risk, 10-play is the way to go.

2,339,395 hands played -41.5 deuces below expectation. So I missing $8,200 in equity just from deuces alone and since I most likely won't ever get all my absolute number of deuces back where will that missing equity come from? wild royals and full houses?? tks.

Youre just gonna be a video poker loser, like most the rest of us.

If you are running below expectation just move up in limits.

$8200 in the hole might seem like a lot at quarters, but at $5 you won't even notice it.

I use WinPoker and I put the hands I don't know into the analyzer and it just tells me the correct stuff to hold. Hit a few straight flushes on the double joker wild machine in Atlantic city because of this wonderful thing. I held the Joker and the Tc instead of just the joker because the Analyzer said it was the most +EV move.

I've never used WinPoker. Does it have a trainer mode? I mean, a mode where it will deal you hands, let you play them, and warn you when you make an error.

I find that this is by far the most effective way of memorizing a strategy. A few thousand hands of immediate negative reinforcement when you make an error works wonders. Also great for "warming up" before hitting the real machines.

Yes it tells you when you make a mistake

Pretty. Sequential.

Has any one lost on winpoker? I can’t seem to lose on that app. It isn’t right imo.

Yes... But on 10 play it is higher variance than single. If I'm going to play multi line at most I will do is 3 line.

If you are dealt for example a non-paying pair like 66J94 rainbow.. Your best hold is 66.

Chances of making 2-pair is 1 in 6.
Chances of making 3 of a kind is 1 in 9
Chances of making Full House is 1 in 12
Chances of making 4oak roughly is 1 in 360

So say you have your non-paying pair on a 10 play. You hold it and get 1 x two pairs (which is above expectation) you get back 10 of 50 credits wagered.
If you get one 3 of a kind you get 15 credits of 50 credits wagered.

So if running at expectation you are most likely to get half your wager back.

I'm not sure what you mean. For the same coin-in per hand, 10-play (at 1/10 the stakes) is lower variance.

So playing 10-play $1 is much lower variance than single-play $10.

You can lower your variance even more by playing 10x the deals of single-play $1. But that is really just lowering your stakes.

I seem to remember that Wizard of Odds had all the variance of all the VP games broken up by variance on the deal, and variance on the draw, so this can be calculated exactly for a particular game and pay table.

WinPoker gives you three options to play a hand. You can toggle between no advice , warn mode or Autoheld. With each hand dealt, you are given the option to see what the program has decided is the most +EV before you select which cards you want to hold or discard.

If you choose the warn mode after you are dealt a hand and decide what cards to keep; press the draw option and if you’re making any kind of a mistake another small window will pop up to ask you if you’d like to go ahead or see what the program decides what’s the best play for this cards dealt.

Its ridiculous that several years later WinPoker is still not available for Android.

That explains why I've never heard of it.

I do prefer to do this on a laptop though. The ability to use the keyboard to hold cards and deal allows me to go a lot faster.

It really depends on your exit point. Over the course of 100 K hands played I was up at one point and in the minus category a majority of the time. At precisely the 100K mark I was still down - 183.50 playing 10 handed JOB.

I play the exact way at the casino and can’t win. Yet on the app I can’t lose. It’s all 10 play JoB 99.46%

Down $4k at .25 JoB at casino 10 play. Something is fishy. I hold all the correct things too because I have the app

Note that a deal royal is $10k. So even in a break even game (which this isn't) you would expect to have (on average) $10k downswings between dealt royals.

What sort of complementaries does your casino give you for your amount of play ? Do they offer point multipliers for VP Players ? Are there any serious VP players that you are friendly with having the same concerns with that specific casino ?

Prolly none. On sundays I get some freeplay if I get 125 slot points. My casino is stingier than ever. I mean I get the wheel of winners every month as mlife gold and that's about it. Oh they gave me some crappy luggage suitcase that probably cost $30 and a spice rack.

I played some single line $1 ($5 a spin) DB 9/7 and put in $400.

I get dealt quad KKKK and quad 4444 which I thought was strange. Maybe the machine didn't pay out for a while and had to so I won about $200

Variance, brother. There's lots of combos of 5 cards.

That is not how that works.

I wrote an email to the developer of WinPoker. As far as I know the software has been available since 2003, so here we are 16 years later of pretty much the same product. The rep at Zamzone responded by saying that they have no plans to develop software geared to the Android community. The rep gave no specific reasons as to why.

How do you know? I imagine they have to pay out by some certain amount they take in. I'm pretty sure there are laws that govern these crazy things.

Paytables determine the % payback