I mean if you can get above 100% return play as many as you can.....even if you break even you are getting your casino VIP status I suppose. And save some receipt (like tourney buyin) for tax refund. I m assuming you are doing well on those.

If my local casino has video poker advantage I will do it as well. Sadly, most casino (that has poker room) offer very bad VP and promotion exclude VP.
Other place that I dont usually go (Barona which is pretty famous on their loose machine and table game) I need at least x15 point promo to play but that happens twice a year

I don't know what the progressive number was when you started playing but 8/6 Bonus Poker Deluxe with a 7992 coin royal is a 100.81% play. Plus the cashback, .3%, and meter movement, 1%. If you were to come into this play from where the meter is at 7992 coins you would be at 102.1%. A pretty good play for Las Vegas.

Is this a stand alone progressive or is it a linked bank?

What is meter move
And how to value progressive?

Meter move is how much the progressive increases based on coin-in. As an example, the progressive could increase by $0.01 for every $1 played. You need to factor that into your EV.

Okay I see. Seems I never play progressive before haha. I know some progressive 8/5 JoB.
But don't know how much is large enough?

Rough rule of thumb for JOB:

each extra 1000 coins in the RF progressive adds ~0.5% for the player.

Factoring in meter movement can be kind of tricky. On a linked bank the progressive might have a 1% meter on it but if you play the game at a low number and jack the meter up yourself then other people are going to jump on the bank when the number gets high enough. Since they are going to hit royals too you've lost value in the meter.

This goes back to the early 2000's but we used to get in royal races all the time at the Cal-Neva/Reno. The game was 9/6 Jacks with a 1.5% meter. The playable number was $2300. That's when we all jumped into action. Ten guys banging out 1000 HPH with an aggressive royal strategy that produced a royal every 33,000 games. The royal would usually go in just a few hours.

My local casino once had 8/5 JoB, 25c machine, nearly $4000 jackpot (16000 coins ).
But I was too busy playing poker and my VP was rusty.

Meh that's about a 40 $ per hour play at full speed right?

Depending on how good you are at poker could be a passable opportunity.

This stuff interests me though. Wish my home casino had progressive VP machines so I could play around a bit when the machines are positive.

yeah that was pretty crazy,
at that time there is no progressive machine available because some senior players play that 24/7,
and the progressive actually increase pretty slow with 40+people playing that.

now that casino smart it up, there is a 9/6 JoB but RF only pay 2500 for 5 coin.
the JoB progressive move down to 7/5 which is not good anymore

Two weeks ago, the casino put up the newest money-maker: two banks of 98.01 Bonus Poker progressive right in front of the buffet: it is a 2$ machine, 5 coins (or 10$) a hand, the progressive jackpot now is about 12k (6000 coins) and people are going nuts.

I observe at least 20% of general players are jackpot/promotion chaser: they dont play much when there is small jackpot or less promotion. But when there is a big jackpot (poker/slot/VP) or good promotion, they will come to the casino and play until the jackpot is hit or promotion end. I mean they will do that when they think the jackpot/promotion is big but most of the time they are still losing. And they wont do math and play very bad.

1am when I leave the poker room yesterday, the two banks VP (about eight machines maybe) are still full

It's a linked bank but nobody was on it. It gets up there not that often, somebody I know snapped off the last one. With a 1% meter though it's worth popping in especially on multiplier days.

Just bumped into this thread. I don't live in LV anymore, and the thing I miss most is video poker. Incidentally, it is also the reason that I decided I needed to leave LV. I had a year and a half affair with VP, ending with me on a ~200,000 hand single line streak of no royal. Sure, I binked some nickel spin poker royals, but nothing above $200.

I do like reading stories about how the game used to be. I wish I could have been around in the old days.

I immediately recognized it as South Point.


Their quarter linked game gets large progressives frequently, as its 1% and got to be close to 40 machines contributing. Also 8/6 deluxe.

I usually don't look at quarters. Just not enough EV to make it worthwhile. The last good one I found was about $5k on a 8/5 DDB quarter machine, but haven't seen anything close since. Also it was a 5 coiner, not a 10 coiner.

A 1% meter would mean if it gets 40k games at $5 a game (about 1 royal cycle) the progressive would go up by $2k. 2 royal cycles and now it's doubled. It's not that unusual for a machine to go 1 or 2 cycles without hitting so the game becomes playable very often.

The average meter move I've found all over town are 0.25%-0.5%, which makes the number unlikely for it to hit the playable number often, unless the base game starts off at a high % such as 9/6 jacks. There is a 10/7 DB (100.17%) progressive in town but I've never seen it get up high enough.

I never play unless the numbers are high enough for a healthy edge. Cashback, meter move, and mailers add quite a bit but I like the progressive to be playable without the "goodies". Also I avoid niche royal progressives such as suited royals, or sequential.

With that being said, I almost never see a $5< get up there.... although I'm not above someone scouting it for me, I'll pay a good finder's fee

I think the largest I've seen was a 5 coin quarter game. 6/5 bonus is what I was playing, all the games on the machine were garbage. It was at $4,400 when it felted me for my last $600.

Don't think I ever saw a dollar game better than about $9,000 8/5 bonus.

This is in the casino that I always play poker. 8/6 JoB progressive. Now the RF is at about 6300 coin. Base return is about 98.34. I'm waiting the RF go up to 8000 coin (2000$) to play.
I have observe the meter move, about 10 coin in (2.5$) and progressive go up by one cent.
Any thoughts?

So the meter move is 0.4%?

Yeah I think so. For 2.5$ coin in get one cent back on royal. 1/250 is 0.4%. I m new to this.
If 98.34+0.4 + 0.1CB. Still need 7000 coin RF (1750$) to be work out over 100%.

I check the casino app. It says the 1$ JoB has progressive of 6500. I have not find that machine yet ( cuz I don't go to the smoking area). But if it was a 8/6 then it would be worth looking.

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We all know of the story. Some of us better than others. I have not seen that article, can you provide a link?

Actually he'll need to provide a link because the post is gonna get deleted. You can't c/p an entire article like that.

I'm just starting to get into video poker, learning what pay tables to look for and whatnot. I've decided to focus on a 99.95% PKM machine for now, $1x 5 per hand.

Are there any apps out there to practice my strategy? It's very slow having to check my handwritten chart so often while at the machine. Thanks in advance

if you need handwritten notes for pickem poker you may want to reconsider your options

I'm not sure what you're accomplishing with that comment. Are you saying every decision in PKM is clear cut? Just want to make sure I learn it 100% correctly the 1st time so I don't develop any bad habits.

Right, pretty trollish/baseless comment.