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09-29-2019 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
How do you know? I imagine they have to pay out by some certain amount they take in. I'm pretty sure there are laws that govern these crazy things.
There are laws, and they say that that's not how that works.

What state are you in? Assuming that you are playing real video poker (not fake bingo machines) there is no required payout. If you play badly the casino will win more. If you get dealt quads and throw them away, the casino keeps that money.
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10-01-2019 , 03:45 PM
Any general advice on machines at Caesar's brand casinos in Vegas to maximize comps/tier credits towards Platinum and Diamond status? Am only a 50c/$1 denomination player. I currently play the 50c/$1 9/5 JOB machines available in the high-limit rooms at Planet Hollywood and Caesars (these are the only two Caesars casinos in Vegas I'm aware of that offer 9/5 JOB for such low denominations). Am open to playing any variant of video poker but that's what I've been going with recently (am in Vegas right now actually). Is playing multiple lines of 25c JOB for example, preferable to playing a single line of $1 JOB?

I've never played 98.01 BP but that's also widely available at the levels I play - is that worth checking out?

Last edited by crystalcitygangsta; 10-01-2019 at 03:54 PM.
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10-01-2019 , 04:08 PM
Read the Diamond in a Day CET Total Rewards thread in the LVL forum. Question is asked and answered multiple times there.
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10-01-2019 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
How do you know? I imagine they have to pay out by some certain amount they take in. I'm pretty sure there are laws that govern these crazy things.
The laws in place prohibit this. It would be cheating as the game is supposed to be designed with a random deck.
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10-01-2019 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalcitygangsta
Any general advice on machines at Caesar's brand casinos in Vegas to maximize comps/tier credits towards Platinum and Diamond status? Am only a 50c/$1 denomination player. I currently play the 50c/$1 9/5 JOB machines available in the high-limit rooms at Planet Hollywood and Caesars (these are the only two Caesars casinos in Vegas I'm aware of that offer 9/5 JOB for such low denominations). Am open to playing any variant of video poker but that's what I've been going with recently (am in Vegas right now actually). Is playing multiple lines of 25c JOB for example, preferable to playing a single line of $1 JOB?

I've never played 98.01 BP but that's also widely available at the levels I play - is that worth checking out?
It's possibly worth pointing out that some MGM properties in Vegas have full pay machines (9/6 JoB, 9/7 TDB) at the $1 level, while Caesar's does not. They are on multi-play machines (100-play or spin poker) but you can play one hand/line if you want.

If you specifically want the Caesar's status for some reason then it's totally up to you. I've never had any Caesar's status so I don't really know the value of the status. I just thought that this was worth mentioning, because the difference between 9/5 JoB and 9/6 JoB is massive -- you are "paying" (ie, losing, in terms of EV) 3x as much for the same amount of coin-in at 9/5.
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10-11-2019 , 09:34 AM
Where are the good video poker machines in LV? I looked on VP2 Free and I couldn't find the ones in the Aria. Are they multi line machines?

I will also be staying at the RIO for a few days, and it says the best ones are the $5 only denomination. So that is $25 a spin?
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10-11-2019 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Where are the good video poker machines in LV? I looked on VP2 Free and I couldn't find the ones in the Aria. Are they multi line machines?

I will also be staying at the RIO for a few days, and it says the best ones are the $5 only denomination. So that is $25 a spin?
Walk across the street to Palms
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10-14-2019 , 11:06 AM
My friend who never played video poker before puts in $200 into the JoB 9/6 $1 10 play so $50 a spin.

He hits a royal just holding the AdKd on one of the pay lines, and before that he spun it up to $900. So he cashes out for $4900. I was in shock as i've never ran that good before.

Is beginners luck a real thing?!?!
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10-16-2019 , 04:04 PM
What do you mean, you've never run that good? You never hit a royal before?

This is definitely a nice session but I'm not sure I'd call it "running good". He was up a bit and then hit a big hand.
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10-24-2019 , 02:46 PM
I hit 1 royal before but down a lot.
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10-24-2019 , 02:50 PM
On Double Bonus poker 10/7 I have the following hand


JhAc3s9c2d

It says keep the JhAc

But on 6c5cAd8hQs

It says keep just the Ad

I don't really get it
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10-24-2019 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
On Double Bonus poker 10/7 I have the following hand


JhAc3s9c2d

It says keep the JhAc

But on 6c5cAd8hQs

It says keep just the Ad

I don't really get it
I think I get it - IS it because the Ac9c are on one board and the Ad isn't sharing anyother diamond???
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10-24-2019 , 05:10 PM
Probably between the extra flush out and 4OAK of 2s and 3s still being live, it edges enough for keeping the solo ace to be more optimal than ace/face.
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10-25-2019 , 09:53 AM
You will drive yourself nuts trying to learn all the penalty card plays in Double Bonus.
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10-26-2019 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
You will drive yourself nuts trying to learn all the penalty card plays in Double Bonus.
Will the casino get mad if I am playing 100.17% return DB and use a phone app to help? It pretty much gives me perfect holds. Also should I use a players card if I am playing these games?
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10-26-2019 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Will the casino get mad if I am playing 100.17% return DB and use a phone app to help? It pretty much gives me perfect holds. Also should I use a players card if I am playing these games?
Of course they won't get mad and of course you should use your players card.
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10-26-2019 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Will the casino get mad if I am playing 100.17% return DB and use a phone app to help? It pretty much gives me perfect holds. Also should I use a players card if I am playing these games?
What stakes are we talking about, and how big is the casino?

You should use the card no matter what. As for the phone... I prefer to memorize the strategy so I can play fast but I realize that this is not easy.

Technically using a phone to tell you what the correct holds are might be illegal in some states but I'm not sure how strictly this would be enforced. If you are playing $1 or lower and the casino is not absolutely tiny, I would assume that they have better things to do with their time.
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10-26-2019 , 07:04 PM
Why on Earth would it be ILLEGAL? Absurd.
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10-26-2019 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Will the casino get mad if I am playing 100.17% return DB and use a phone app to help? It pretty much gives me perfect holds. Also should I use a players card if I am playing these games?
I would prefer a strategy card over a phone app. If push comes to shove, the casino could allege that the phone is a "device." Their argument does not need to hold up in court to kick you out.

But my first choice would be to use neither. Use practice software at home to learn the game. Don't try to do it in a casino on the fly. Most penalty card plays in DB will add very little to your expectation. It has been a while since I played DB, but IIRC there were only a handful of penalty cards that I bothered to learn.

If you have an edge at the game, you should be playing at an optimal (ie, fast with few/no mistakes) speed. You will never reach that using an app or a strategy card. If you don't have an edge, you shouldn't be playing at all.
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10-27-2019 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Use practice software at home to learn the game.
any specific software to look to look for, i've done this before and there are so many and most aren't at all what they claim to be
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10-27-2019 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
any specific software to look to look for, i've done this before and there are so many and most aren't at all what they claim to be
Sorry, I don't. I have been out of serious vp for so long that I am not current on it. I used a few different ones quite a while back. Each had its pros and cons, but any of them would have been fine. As different games have evolved, I'm not sure which would be most helpful today.

Perhaps someone else can make some recommendations.
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10-27-2019 , 11:15 AM
depending on the casino, you might want to consider not using your card for over 100% payback VP... Some casinos outright say you get no mail offers from those machines, others will lower your offers by playing them.
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10-27-2019 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Why on Earth would it be ILLEGAL? Absurd.
because it violates the law on the books.... Nevada says no electronic aides can be using in gambling.....

is something going to happen if you look up the occasional hand.... highly unlikely.
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10-27-2019 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
because it violates the law on the books.... Nevada says no electronic aides can be using in gambling.....

is something going to happen if you look up the occasional hand.... highly unlikely.
The law may have been amended, but IIRC it prohibits "devices" rather than specifying electronics. Vague and open to interpretation.

Many other states wrote their laws by essentially copying Nevada's existing statutes. Why re-invent the wheel? New Jersey is a notable exception to that generalization.
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10-29-2019 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Why on Earth would it be ILLEGAL? Absurd.
Because some states have laws about using devices to aid in gambling. Nevada does, and many states more or less copied Nevada's gaming laws.

An app that determines the best play for you is certainly a device; I don't even see how this could be a grey area.
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