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10-28-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MidniteToker
ITT completely double property.
And if I also partially quote you you also make no sence, grow up!!!
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10-28-2013 , 05:08 PM
Pikes, your views on blackjack are so far removed from reality that I fear that you are literally incapable of having a logical and sane discussion on any aspect of the game. Your premises for this conversation you're trying to have are just plain factually wrong, and you will not be able to find the answers you seek until you can throw out the window everything you think you know about the game.

You're coming across itt as a bit of a nutjob, and anyone who replies to you at this point is really just feeding you things that you can then crazily respond to, because it's entertaining.
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10-28-2013 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Down
Pikes, your views on blackjack are so far removed from reality that I fear that you are literally incapable of having a logical and sane discussion on any aspect of the game. Your premises for this conversation you're trying to have are just plain factually wrong, and you will not be able to find the answers you seek until you can throw out the window everything you think you know about the game.

You're coming across itt as a bit of a nutjob, and anyone who replies to you at this point is really just feeding you things that you can then crazily respond to, because it's entertaining.
Nutjob or not my net result for casino BJ is still in the black and purely because my studies and strategy have made it so. Only one person so far has bothered to even come close to attempting to answer my question on the extra cabling linked to the machines and irrespective of my agreement/disagreement with his view Im not attempting to rag/not rag on him because of it. It seems there are a handful of you however just trawling the site with this one purpose in mind offerring nothing of substance, perhaps that is why no others post their replies because of the handful of rag artists with nothing to offer
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10-28-2013 , 06:09 PM
Congratulations. You figured us out.
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10-28-2013 , 06:19 PM
indeed
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10-28-2013 , 07:15 PM
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WHY THE NEED FOR ANY OTHER CABLE THAN A POWER CABLE LINKED TO THE CSM?
Mostly so that ShuffleMaster can push updates to the machine, partially for game protection (jackpot verification etc), but I'm not sure the One2Sixes can do that.

You're obviously very seriously mentally ill though, so you'll just dismiss this as some sort of quackery.
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10-29-2013 , 03:29 AM
Subscribed for the lols
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10-29-2013 , 04:59 AM
Its required by the NSA so they can monitor/record conversations at the tables, lol.
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10-29-2013 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pikes
And if I also partially quote you you also make no sence, grow up!!!
You're an idiot. Playing with the same strategy as the house isn't +EV because of the double bust property, and if you can't understand that, you're a double idiot.
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10-29-2013 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MidniteToker
You're an idiot. Playing with the same strategy as the house isn't +EV because of the double bust property, and if you can't understand that, you're a double idiot.
And you also only quote what you want to adding nothing of substance, IF you have something decent to add please do, you like many others trawl the site to waffle on about nothing just to hurl insults making me believe with the selective quotes and half comments that the idiot label should be hung on you and your trawling buddies. Shame what a useless sad lot you are (no offence to the real posters of SUBSTANCE).

Im done with this thread, got virtually nowhere except a lot of drivel from people needing to boost their post tally, watch my next post, garuanteed the same sad bunch will trawl the post to compete for the position of saying the most while saying nothing
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10-29-2013 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pikes
Im done with this thread
based on your previous statements illustrating you not understanding the rules and just being a general rigtard - now that you've made this claim, I predict that you are also a liar.
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10-29-2013 , 01:23 PM
I have several hours worth of 1-2-6 data collected from Indian card craps. Of course it does not directly translate to BJ as only A-6 ranks are used. The data includes 2 1-2-6 machines used in the game, along with suits+ranks.

Any thoughts on publishing this data here for all to comment?
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10-29-2013 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubster
Mostly so that ShuffleMaster can push updates to the machine, partially for game protection (jackpot verification etc), but I'm not sure the One2Sixes can do that.
Just because the cable is used to push updates to the machine doesn't mean it's not also used to rig the cards and let the NSA spy on you.
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10-29-2013 , 08:25 PM
Guys, NSA is rigging the sequence to tell the table your social security number.
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10-29-2013 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pikes
Nutjob or not my net result for casino BJ is still in the black and purely because my studies and strategy have made it so.
So I assume you are a card counter, right? Which means you know that you can't play that way against a CSM anyway.

Oh wait, didn't you ask in another thread why online BJ is -EV? So you actually didn't know that. And that means you aren't a card counter. Which means your statement above is 100% BS and you don't even realize that either.

You are posting on a forum where people actually know stuff. So it's hard to get away with BS here. To give you a little benefit of the doubt, you might actually be up lifetime at BJ. But from your posts, it's obvious to everyone else that is 100% luck, and you just don't know it. BJ is a game where the rules give the house a guaranteed advantage. You think they just enjoy gambling with you? That that's their business model?

Last edited by NewOldGuy; 10-29-2013 at 08:57 PM.
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10-29-2013 , 09:34 PM
Well yeah, up thread I asked him why he thought he was +EV against a shoe without counting... no answer.
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10-30-2013 , 08:13 AM
The guy doesn't even have a ****ing clue of where the house edge comes from, it's damn obvious he doesn't have a single correct thought about BJ strategy.
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10-30-2013 , 05:41 PM
What a funny thread
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10-30-2013 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MidniteToker
The guy doesn't even have a ****ing clue of where the house edge comes from.
IT COMES FROM THE CSMS RIGGING THE DECK CANT YOU GUYS READ
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11-25-2013 , 03:30 AM
Ok. So I work at a casino and have dealt for probably 1000s of hours now with shuffling machines. The ones at my casino don't have a USB cable (not that I can remember anyway). But I will take a look next time I'm there. And if it did, they would never be plugged into anything during a live game. But, I do know that our player tracking software (bally) does have the capability of tracking dealers hands per hour, we just don't use that feature.

Next. The insides of the machines are really very simple. There is no trickery. No reading devices. It's just rollers and slots. Dealer inserts cards into slot. The shuffling machine will pull the cards into a slot one at a time. Each card gets put into a different slot. The slots are on a freewheel that moves around as cards are brought in. When there are no more cards to go into the machine, the wheel holding the card spins around. As the dealer pulls cards from the machine, it will put in new cards at random. Once hand is finished, put in the cards used for that hand, rinse repeat.

Yes, you do see the funky crazy things. I've had 7 card 21's before. Numerous times. But. I've also had that on a manual shoe. That is blackjack. You will not win long term. VIP's get manual shoes, and they get ****ed over just as bad as a CSM.

The only reasons for us getting them, is to increase turnover, because as I'm sure you all will know. If the casino doesn't have a hand in progress (as in when we are shuffling cards after a shoe) then they won't be making money.

And obviously, to stop card counting.

Game integrity is a huge deal to me, so if I'm supervising and someone asks me whats inside a shuffling machine, I will show them if I have a closed table near by or when we are closing. Once people have seen it up close they tend to realize that it's not rigged, and it's just the game.
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11-25-2013 , 04:44 AM
Are you a pit boss or floorperson?
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11-25-2013 , 04:45 AM
Clearly buckers is IN ON IT.
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11-25-2013 , 05:45 AM
Floorperson
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11-25-2013 , 05:51 AM
What's your normal procedure for dealing with advantage players? How do you treat, say, a card counter compared to a holecarder? Do you subscribe to any surveillance services like OSN or Biometrica?
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11-25-2013 , 05:54 AM
And are you actually in New Zealand?
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