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Old 05-08-2017, 03:34 AM   #101
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Guys how ****ing hard is it to understand that you can't win at this game?
I feel like that's a pretty small number ITT. But baccarat players by nature are absurdly illogical.
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Old 05-08-2017, 04:53 PM   #102
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For that matter and with actual rules you can't win at every other game either with very rare exceptions.

About illogical players, I'm astonished to see how many idiots keep playing double zero roulettes or joining WSOP tourneys, for example.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:45 AM   #103
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Guys how ****ing hard is it to understand that you can't win at this game?
You can though
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:51 AM   #104
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You can get lucky though
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:18 PM   #105
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Wonder how if anyone has gotten backed off from baccarat besides Phil Ivey...
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Old 05-13-2017, 02:54 PM   #106
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Wonder how if anyone has gotten backed off from baccarat besides Phil Ivey...
Lots of people have
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:02 PM   #107
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For winning too much? That's like saying that you got backed off from winning to much on slot machines.


On another note, didn't know our new casino has $1,000 chips. I might have to check this place out over Memorial Day weekend:

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Old 07-11-2017, 08:53 PM   #108
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A ne bacc house just opened south of the Seatac airport

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Old 07-14-2017, 09:09 PM   #109
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Wonder how if anyone has gotten backed off from baccarat besides Phil Ivey...
They have but you have to be kind of dumb to get that greedy. Packer was probably the most famous example before Ivey.

A lot of high-rollers figured out you could win by getting good rebate deals and keeping your sessions short. The "you can't win at bac" BS you read in the literature is about as far off-base as you can imagine, it is really trivial for a wealthy individual to get an edge. For many years the high-roller who didn't chain himself to the table had a small edge off the top.

Of course this doesn't justify pseudo-scientific approaches based on progressions or trending or other bull****. Though personally It is as boring to me to listen to people debunk that stuff than it is to listen to people develop the dumb theories in the first place. So it doesn't work-do you think that crowd is going to listen to you?

There's a lot of literature stating you can't count cards at bac, which is not really true. What is true is that a linear count system won't get you an edge by itself. But, it doesn't need to-you already have an edge with rebates/short sessions. Even 0.25% edge is a lot where you are betting 100K or whatever. With a 0.25-0.5% edge there's too much random noise to get made in any reasonable time frame.

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