asymbacguy -- let's try to flesh this out a bit.
You go to a baccarat table. They open 6 fresh decks and load them into the shuffler. So you know with 100% certainty what the card order was before it was shuffled. What next? Do you bet on player or bank?

The first hand comes out 9-K, 8-Q. What do you bet next?

It depends as some shoes are not playable at all and it takes 1.5-2 hours to finish an 8-deck shoe.
Additionally tables where you can bet five figures very often feature lower speeds and one needs to keep track of several parameters, many of them not displayed on the screen (of course).
Finally my approach dictates to bet from zero to two or rarely three wagers per shoe, a thing that disgusts almost every bac player.

Imo and according to our results, baccarat is the best game to make money in a casino; mainly as at baccarat one could easily "fold" a lot of hands (say entire shoes) without having to wager a cent.

I do not know what's your point, probably that the next cards are 7, J, 6 and 10 thus I'd bet the 8/9 side bet paying me 200:1 along with a banker bet.
Third card for the player should be a 5 (8 the final point) but a 9 is going to make a fkng 9 point on the banker zero initial point.

Now I'm asking you a question.
What's the probability to win on banker side when the third card is a 6 and banker has 7?

Experts or so-called experts want to give the answer here.
Just to flesh out the topic a bit.

There are baccarat regs (like poker regs) at the casinos I mentioned. Lots never lose. Surprised the casinos haven't "backed them off" like in blackjack

Because guess what guy. They ****in lose sometimes.

It's irrelevant because you can't bet on it at that point. The probability could be 100% and it's still irrelevant to gambling. That's like the TV poker calculators that show the % at each street on a preflop all-in. Interesting but irrelevant to the game.

Not entirely. If you did not know the what the first 2 player cards would be, but you had a strong suspicion banker's first 2 would add to 7, and the 5th card would certainly be a 6, then the point is material.

To answer his question, player win probability is:

1) First 2 {2,3} = 0.19;
2) First 2 {8,9} = 0.19.
Total is 0.38

Player tie probability is:
1) First 2 {7} = 0.095;
2} First 2 {1} = 0.095.
Total is 0.19

Player lose probability is 1.0 - 0.38 - 0.19 = 0.43.

So in this specific case with the above information one would bet banker with an ev of 0.05/0.81 = 0.062.

I'm not asserting that was asym's point, but he has been discussing shuffle tracking and expectation of cards yet to be dealt, so maybe.

Theoretically it is possible the observer never sees the APs lose, but if true then they are not optimizing bankroll growth.

Pokerhero77, your nickname should be Baccarathero77! ;-)

About APs, I'm certain some people around the globe are playing with an edge and as long as this possible edge can't be mathematically ascertained, casinos and APs are swimming in relatively safe waters.

Actually European casinos tend to be more skeptical about the old "baccarat is an unbeatable game" statement, starting to ban some HS player who "seem" to be too right for long periods. Notice that in Europe 6-deck shoes are used.
And imo it's not a coincidence that in Montecarlo (maximum bet 30.000 euros) they deal 8-deck shoes cutting off from the play about two decks, despite their bac tables do not offer any side bet but ties.

Maybe someone told them to do this :-)

They win more than they lose...

All casinos use 8 decks in bacc (WA state).

In other news:

A double suited match pays 10%?

I would have expected that 5d to be a 2c.

Sad to know that I've spent several years of studying baccarat to find out an approach capable to win around one unit per every four shoes dealt (where around 1/3 of total shoes are not playable at all) and I see people claiming to win a lot more than that.
Maybe they know more than me.

Back to study.

You worrying too much mate, you're gonna have a heart attack.In baccarat , just follow the pattern ,

You left out a word. I fixed it.

Thanks, but I'm not worried, I was just joking about easy long shot winnings.

Problem is people playing with me want to buy a Bugatti Divo and not a simple Lamborghini Aventador with their bac winnings.
I can't do that. Maybe at bj someone can do that, but I'm doubtful.

And all this time I thought bacguy was just killin' it.

There are a few 5 or 6 sigma players in every game of chance, after all.

Of course.
After all it's not that difficult to win 25 or 36 hands in a row (or any proportional W/L ratio giving a 5 or 6 sigma) at a so called 50/50 game. LOL.

Ask baccarat players how's likely to win, let's say, just 10-12 hands in a row.

Probably some of them will say it's quite easy, those are people living in Principality of Monaco and, naturally, driving Bugatti Divos.
(only in their dreams)

You can find how to play baccarat and win, some tips and tricks on this post.

Seen a lot of guys go broke betting against a crazy streak.

All you nerds and your numbers.

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szilmt
szilmt
1 week ago
Americans should start playing this:



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You're so hilariously delusional.


Some guy makes a youtube comment that a casino game has no house edge and you just run with it.