I only have 1 question, Is it true that they ban winning players? I've heard múltiple stories of players that win 5k+ without using bots or any collusion, just being good players, and still get banned. It's like they only accept losing players. So why would I want to play on private club apps if they only accept fishes?

Some unions do ban winning players over a significant sample size, for a number of reasons. For example, it makes security cheaper and easier. But mostly, it gives the club a "safe" place for recs to play without feeling like they might be getting sharked. It's part of their business model to be as friendly as possible to recs and to keep them playing for as long as possible, paying the house rake over a long period of time instead of getting stacked by winning players and leaving the games sooner.

Overall, winning players are viewed in a negative light by people in the ClubGG space - this is less true for other apps. On the other hand, some unions are quite friendly to regs as long as they rake decently and don't belong to an overall winning downline which would be indicative of a stable or team.

I'm admittedly confused by your question at the end. A club full of fish is a desirable place to play regardless of whether you're a recreational. If you're a recreational player, you will be in good company with fellow gamblers. If you're a for-profit player, your win rate will increase.

I am a winning player (only slightly) but have never been banned. I have been limited by Massiv after about 20k hands though, indicating that their security team could brush up on poker math.

Is there a way I can contact you privately?

You're a skilled writer, organ man.

So can you clarify, in broad terms, how the rake gets divvied up?


Say I generated 100$ rake in the week and I get 15% of that, how much of the remainder goes to the agent, club, platform? Roundabout...

You could DM me here or find me on the internet, but if you have a question or need help with a specific situation I'm sure just posting here would be better.

Thanks for the compliment. I've definitely had to improve my wordsmith skills a lot over the course of these degrees, through necessity...

The answer to your question varies greatly, depending on the situation. But here's what I would consider a "standard" deal - I would estimate that half or more of all deals are structured somewhat like this:

Union: takes 10%
Club owner: takes 90%, and shares it as follows:
Superagent: 70%
Agent: 55%
Player: 0%-50%. Whales get more and regs get less.

Often, any entity at the level of SA or lower will be on what we call a "sliding scale." For example, in one union, if my guys generate 1k or less in a week, I get 65%, 1k-2k is 70%, and 2k+ is 80% (or thereabouts, I'm not reporting the numbers exactly.)

Me either. But to each their own.

What are your thoughts on running a rake free app game for legal purposes building up a player base then selling it to someone who will charge rake?