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10-27-2023 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Best part of LA to move to for someone new to the area?
Dont listen to jake, its chinatown. lol. i dunno, depends on what you want.
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10-27-2023 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Didn't even Rounders correct that? Thank you Moneymaker!
there was a tiny rounders boom. that was the wave that brought me into a casino and out of small home games. i would go as far as sandia casino in new mexico for a NL game!!!!
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10-27-2023 , 11:36 AM
- What is your defintion of a Genius?
- How many did you encounter on the felt, who were they, and what made them so great? (similar to my first question, but not exclusive to poker.)
- Do you have an opinion on Tom Dwan as a player? I ask this because he was once an online world champion and is quite polarizing.
- Can a game as good as hold'em be theoretically invented? Do you think this could have anything to do with a future boom, or are we just ****ed senseless in the future.
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10-27-2023 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
1) nah, not even close, DGAF prob high on that list. I actually drank a lot more when I hosted PLO at the bike 2010-2016ish. they gave me $1000 a month in promotion money and i spent it all on wine for the table.

2) i heard about people doing it but im basically 90% retired and really lazy. if i do anything its mostly for fun, doesn't mean im not trying to win because winning is fun.

3) I try to sit at a table where someone is betting real big, then you can spread from minimum to whatever they are betting with no heat. I try to back count and wong in. hanging out w/big degens helps, going when high rollers are out in vegas helps. I never have huge BJ years because I live in LA, between banking LA games and Playing in vegas prob 50K cash and 10k comps would be a top year.

4) often. i let euro genders and asperger pros know they can easily be removed from all lists and invites and possibly be removed from the casino if they dont play nice. i let them know thy are in a great game and the game is not for them, its for the rec players and they need to be the best versions of themselves to hang around. ive never gone "fully private" like most games to keep these guys out, IME you can usually just mentor them. ive only had to ban two horrible offenders.

5) i tend not to say anything. often no one even believes you and it slows the game and causes an argument. i will always protect a rec player or someone who is good for the game i will basically never protect pros or nits. this is far different than buying a RFID table and sitting in security meetings and knowing everything about the operation, cameras, direction, and the lineup then planting yourself right in the middle of it with big money. imo, just my opinion. it just has a bad/smelly LOOK. even if everything is legit.
I forget how different California is poker wise and that you have to pay for drinks Pretty cool you'd dump the 1000 in promo money on booze. The bolded is a great example of how different things are in games that are strictly public like Vegas or Borgata. The euro turds get to be as unbearable as possible, ruining games but there is no game runner list so they don't care. Being able to host games and get paid is awesome and extremely different as well.

I can respect the laziness factor. NJ and PA were the best places for it by far and when sports started up again in the summer of 2020 it was a free money bonanza so that was right place right time for me. I definitely could have made more if I went to places like Arizona and Colorado when they first got it but that's far.

Going out with high rollers definitely helps. I've actually tried to play at the tables next to someone betting really big thinking surveillance will be focused on that table more. You'd appreciate this. Once I was playing double deck at the gold coast which used to be a deeply cut game and I switch tables. It's a 25 min table and only one other person there who is away from the table. They have a ton of white chips just in a random pile. I'm used to white being 1 dollar chips and I'm thinking wtf is that mess. This woman comes back and starts firing 2-3 chips at a time and playing horrendously which is when I realized they're 1000 dollar chips. So now my new max bet is 1000. She dusts everything and I don't want to give them my ID and I'm thinking how the **** am I gonna cash out these stupid gold coast chips. She pulls out some Aria 1k chips and is gonna swap them with the gold coast chips but that's a whole procedure for the casino. I happily trade a bunch of gold coast chips for Aria chips which I much prefer anyway since it's the Aria not some dump and since I actually play plo there. She promptly dusts those too and I get the hell out of there cashing out the few gold coast chips I have left.

And yea agree with you on running a ****ing huge streamed game with rfid cameras etc. Even if it's legit people will always wonder if they got cheated. I also just can't stand that Vertucci makes ZERO effort to be good/fun for the game at all either in how he plays or how he acts at the table. Total **** host.
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10-27-2023 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
hes a trailblazer, a poker survivor, he has taken advice from me in the past and gotten paid to play/host poker. he could have went A LOT farther with it. Hes not lazy but seems to get very comfortable with small wins. this isn't necessarily a bad thing if that is the sweet spot where you want to be but you can't complain about it later. i am the same in some ways, im very happy where im at and dont want to do anything extra and i never complain, i built this spot for better or worse.
If you were worth what he's worth, how much less lazy would you be?
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10-27-2023 , 01:19 PM
How can the Spurs be a 500-1 dog to win the championship? If he avoids foul trouble, Wemby will dominate. He can shut down anyone 1v1.
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10-27-2023 , 02:29 PM
Are you saying that you're a bookie/agent for bookies?

What's the biggest amount you've ever been scammed? Details on how and why please.

What's the biggest amount you've seen someone else get scammed? Details on how and why please.

What advice do you have for collecting money from people who owe you? For example, what steps would you have taken if that guy who owed you 25k from golf was slow paying or just ghosting you?

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10-27-2023 , 02:39 PM
Limon,

Great thread, great read, and great advice given by a literate, knowledgeable OG.

This was a real public service to 2+2 readers, every one on the forum could benefit from a read through.

(Appreciated the mention of Vikrant Bhagrava "coming to America", in order to meet customers directly.)
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10-27-2023 , 03:33 PM
Limon, who are the worst people to play poker with and why are they Europeans?
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10-27-2023 , 04:26 PM
Favorite gambling related game / thing to gamble on? Not just due to having high edge but most fun for you
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10-27-2023 , 04:29 PM
What's can a good 5/10 NL grinder make these days full time?
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10-27-2023 , 04:37 PM
What percentage of players would you say are winners and breakeven? At my home casino over 50% of the players are regs (not necessarily pros, some retirees some business owners with tons of free time) who are competent and I can’t imagine most of them being losing players. Do they just pass money around?
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10-27-2023 , 07:06 PM
2007-2009 or so there were often big lhe games (2/4 and even occasionally up to 5/10) running at Commerce in addition to the standard 100/200 game that went daily. There was also often a huge (500/1k?) razz game that went semi-regularly and was often hu or 3-handed with the same fish, and 100/200 stud that went daily as well. Also big mixed games. Why did you never play those games?
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10-27-2023 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Limon, who are the worst people to play poker with and why are they Europeans?
1. Europeans are Europeans because they were born in Europe or emigrated there from somewhere else.

2. Europeans, by and large, are not the worst people to play poker with.

3. Californians, as a group, are the worst people to have playing poker at your table.

Costa Ricans, in my view, are the best people to have playing poker at your cash game table. Games there are highly social, energetic, friendly and loose. Generally, the players are having a good time ....
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10-27-2023 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
- What is your defintion of a Genius?
- How many did you encounter on the felt, who were they, and what made them so great? (similar to my first question, but not exclusive to poker.)
- Do you have an opinion on Tom Dwan as a player? I ask this because he was once an online world champion and is quite polarizing.
- Can a game as good as hold'em be theoretically invented? Do you think this could have anything to do with a future boom, or are we just ****ed senseless in the future.
a genius invents. you give 1000 people a bunch of information to solve a problem and the genius solves it with little to none of information given in a way that seems completely out of left field because the problem wasn't really the problem. Einstein would do what looked like simple thought experiments to get to the root of problems very eloquently by showing how they related to the system they were in.

geniuses get past playing poker very quickly IMO. its a small game. a small vehicle.

ive never been impressed with dwan, he was a spazz on a heater at one point and get in over his head and acted very unethically in side bets. hes sort of a grand old man of degens now which is fitting and i wish him all the best.

the poker game has nothing to do with the boom. the boom is caused by lifting a prohibition in a place and time where there is lots of money. if you gave me a license to spread only 7 card stud live and online in Hawaii there would be a massive 7 card stud boom in hawaii.
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10-27-2023 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
How can the Spurs be a 500-1 dog to win the championship? If he avoids foul trouble, Wemby will dominate. He can shut down anyone 1v1.
id take a flyer on spurs at 500-1.
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10-27-2023 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Are you saying that you're a bookie/agent for bookies?

What's the biggest amount you've ever been scammed? Details on how and why please.

What's the biggest amount you've seen someone else get scammed? Details on how and why please.

What advice do you have for collecting money from people who owe you? For example, what steps would you have taken if that guy who owed you 25k from golf was slow paying or just ghosting you?
Its not usually scammed per se, sometimes a person can't pay, you need to partially blame yourself if you are good at your job because you gave them that size credit line. ive had many 5 figure debts due, i treat the person with respect and as a friend and ask them to just stay in touch and do what they can, even if its just a little to be respectful. every scumbag degenerate who is stiffing people always pays someone, its the person they think will keep them in action and not cut them off. be that guy. Ive had people pay me literally YEARS later when they linked a tournament or something, most aren't criminals, just gambling addicts.

recently a massive "scam" happened at my casino, a guy who bet with me in the past showed up and wanted big credit lines from every bookie (i turned him down i didn't like him he was being used by a sharp to bet with me in the past) he also started very big fantasy leagues and took mid 6 figures in deposits from people who vouched for him. He was known around and never had a reputation as a criminal, actually as a legit decent smartish gambler mostly. He used the deposits to bet massively with the bookies on huge credit lines and ran up like 700k in debt including the deposits. HE THEN KILLED HIMSELF. the gambling world is crazy kids. be forewarned.
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10-27-2023 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Limon,

Great thread, great read, and great advice given by a literate, knowledgeable OG.

This was a real public service to 2+2 readers, every one on the forum could benefit from a read through.

(Appreciated the mention of Vikrant Bhagrava "coming to America", in order to meet customers directly.)
THANK YOU!
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10-27-2023 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mapletreeway
Favorite gambling related game / thing to gamble on? Not just due to having high edge but most fun for you
golf.
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10-27-2023 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
What's can a good 5/10 NL grinder make these days full time?
some brazilian grinding 4 man team came to my casino for 3 months and attacked the 5-10nl like locusts. they played well, tough, very trained and disciplined. when they were leaving they were at the bar and i asked one who played plo sometimes what they were making. he said across the entire group for 3 months they averaged $72 an hour. That prob near the top of what you could expect id guess.
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10-27-2023 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDough
What percentage of players would you say are winners and breakeven? At my home casino over 50% of the players are regs (not necessarily pros, some retirees some business owners with tons of free time) who are competent and I can’t imagine most of them being losing players. Do they just pass money around?
theres a guy i golf with who is an OMC nit grinder shortish stack unimaginative uber reg. he owns several ice cream shops. he keeps meticulous records and over the last decade he make $13 an hour in 5-5 and 5-10 nl. lolol. AND HE LOVES IT! He says hes running like **** because he only has 3 table share and no jackpots. nearly everyone in the casino is a loser or winning so little its a comedy show.
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10-27-2023 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
2007-2009 or so there were often big lhe games (2/4 and even occasionally up to 5/10) running at Commerce in addition to the standard 100/200 game that went daily. There was also often a huge (500/1k?) razz game that went semi-regularly and was often hu or 3-handed with the same fish, and 100/200 stud that went daily as well. Also big mixed games. Why did you never play those games?
I was mostly online until 2008, after that i was 90% at the bike from 2010-2017 after that I played a lot of 100-200 stud at commerce. i started the game most mornings for a couple years and would play until PLO started. i was getting paid to play PLO so i played that mostly.
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10-27-2023 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Limon, who are the worst people to play poker with and why are they Europeans?
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
1. Europeans are Europeans because they were born in Europe or emigrated there from somewhere else.

2. Europeans, by and large, are not the worst people to play poker with.

3. Californians, as a group, are the worst people to have playing poker at your table.

Costa Ricans, in my view, are the best people to have playing poker at your cash game table. Games there are highly social, energetic, friendly and loose. Generally, the players are having a good time ....
Euros (brazil and argentina are part of europe) are horrible because they are just here to work and dont give a **** about the ecosystem. they are parasites on the system give nothing and only take. they do the most +ev thing at all times and have no respect for the locals that they are crushing because they will never see them again. they aren't "sports" or "gamblers" and act in a business like manner. no one wants to sit with them and its why so many games have gone private or semi private. THAT SAID, if i was going to some ****ed up euro country to work i would probably behave the same way, i dont blame them and they can be really fun guys outside of poker. asperger pros are the same way, they think the game exists for them to make money, the game absolutely does not exist for them to make money, they parasite off the hard work of others who create an atmosphere that brings in gamblers.

the best people to have at your table are fiery emotional people (from countries that are constantly at war with someone) , super dumb people (little red caps always help), and gambling addicts/angle shooters.
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10-27-2023 , 08:35 PM
Remember that time I wore a Trump shirt on LATB and got banned from ever being on the show again?
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10-27-2023 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
id take a flyer on spurs at 500-1.
You would be bettter off buying lottery tickets
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