I KNOW! lol. I was just making a goofy joke. that said, a scotch loving friend of mine said it was the peteyest smokiest scotch he had ever tasted so maybe it does something in the bottle over 20 years.

Soowon is very good, although it's been many years since I was there. I had thought you were a scotch drinker at some point because I thought I saw you drinking a scotch-like drink at the Bike but I guess it must have been bourbon. Never had Pappy myself—just too damn expensive.

I wonder when just Siri get to a point that I could use it as a reliable assistant to record thoughts, book flights, schedule meetings quickly, etc. I think having something like Jarvis would be really cool and helpful.

The fact that cash games will get worse in ten years sounds right but doesn't make me happy. I'm hoping to play more poker then... Maybe I'll also just end up playing tournaments for fun.

I don't live in LA anymore (live near Chicago now) and with kids I have a hard time visiting LA (where my parents still live). But I will start visiting more frequently in a few years. I will definitely get in touch with Billy and try to see if you are up for Korean BBQ next time I'm in town!

I was really glad to see your rant starting at 29:30, that describes me to a T.

Love the thread but I always was a bit bothered by you describing poster as dead/dying, because I just don't see it that way, as the games I play in are populated, active, fun, and I make a few bucks as a two-day a week hobby while I get actual real money and fulfillment elsewhere. But your statements in that clip helped clarify, that my games/experience are not what you are talking about, you are comparing to the heyday of live pro higher stakes LA poker pretty much, with which I have no experience. "It's a social club...PLUS MONEY!!!" as you said. which is exactly how I approach it. Watch some ball on the TV, shoot the ****, have a few drinks, and pull in an extra few grand cash per year. Well said.

Ardbeg, a high-end Islay, is pretty frakkin' peaty/smokey

Any crazy shyt I did was when I was young and prob just on a dare. Prob should have died or went to jail a few times. When you’re a known gambler your friends will say **** like “I’ll bet you $100 I can XXX (eat a dog turd or whatever) but I was never into it. Just basically paying people to do stupid shyt. The craziest bet will never stop being fukking MAGA morons betting trump would be president weeks and months after the election was over. Because these were BIG bets and these trump fuktards are like the dumbest people ever born. It was beyond mind boggling. Still is.

Did they all pay up?

He's saying it's not a career anymore. Not that poker is dead, or unprofitable, or that you won't make any money. You're just not making enough money now so that it would justify the time, energy, heartbreak, and cash you would have to go through to play full time. Week in, week out.

I don't think there's any questioning what the best route for players is today: Play. Play as much as you want and at as high of stakes as you want. But have a separate, solid stream of passive and/or active income so that you know you don't have to depend on that next card to pay your rent or put food on the table. You're still allowed to bink a tournament or go on a sun run in cash games.

It's just really rational, mature, sound advice for anyone putting time into the game here in now 2024 (!). He simply says the quiet parts out loud and exposes what he calls the Poker Industrial Complex for what it is.

"You see it everyday; people bust out, people on the rail, people begging for money, people scamming. You’ve got that stupid ****ing poker awards, that you mentioned earlier, where a bunch of pimps and hoes show up to pat each other on the back and ask each other for the money they’re due. "

hhaha so true. meanwhile cate hall was actually trash at poker, broke playing on stake and has long since quit.

but oh wait she got an award lmao.

no. i collected about 85% over time. trump voters are somewhere between criminal and criminally stupid (just like their leader). They lack basic logic and reasoning skills and are unmoored from any ethical center. Trying to explain to unethical re+ards who couldn't pass 1st grade civics that trump had lost and he wasn't coming back proved i was the most patient man on earth. The things i wont do for money (that i will never spend).

nice synopsis!

I had totally forgot that interview existed from like 7 years ago but i gotta admit...my takes stand the test of time!!!

Thank you for laying it out the way you did. This thread has been hugely beneficial for me. At first it was nostalgia and sadness over legitimately having missed the boom. Then it was acceptance. Then it was trying to see what the game's roll actually is currently since so many people are still playing for so much money. By understanding exactly where poker fits in my life - and for what purpose - I have a lot more clarity and focus during my day to day lately. And developing the mindset necessary to absorb gambling losses and swings is turning me into a far more stoic and profitable person off the tables, too. Capable of actually using my intellect when making decisions instead of my emotions.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend!

edit: The analogy you drew between the WSOP and the Kentucky Derby was really interesting/eye opening, too. Definitely haven't heard that perspective on it before but it's obviously accurate.

You speak truth.

Limon, who are some of your past poker friends who became Trumptards and now you can no longer be as friendly with them as you were before you knew?

Was advised long ago to "Be the House!" I tried buying in with George Hardie when the government was trying to off it. I had 1% if we got the deal. We were actually the high bidder but they turned us down because of George's past affilitation with the previous ownership. Next I tried hard for a couple of years to get a poker license in the San Fernando Valley in L.A. I had a good location in a city that welcomed me, but the state quit issuing licenses after giving out six more in other areas. After that just stuck to real estate.

100% agree with you here! Stupidity reigns in much of America now. Too bad they're not into poker, lol.

You can buy club caribe license from the flynt family for 18mm I’m told. I wouldn’t want a poker license now. Dying industry. If I had an inside track on legalized sports gambling or something I’d snatch it up.

All the big money from gambling is online now. Even the big Vegas casinos are all tied into online gambling and sports betting.

Meanwhile Pete Rose is still banned from MLB and the HOF for making small bets on his own team to win. Talk about hypocrisy. All of MLB is embracing gambling sites now for the advertising/sponsor dollars. Once again, money talks! The Saudi's and their PIF have bought off many of the best golfers in the world and torn pro golf to shreds in the process. That sir is the world we live in today. No morality, just greed, from the top down!

I mean, you always "knew". MAGA scum are the same dipshits that still make "f*g" and "N-word" jokes at the country club. These were never close friends, these were gambling losers. Close friends i would immediately call out. No real friend of mine was a trump guy i only befriend smart successful people no grifter criminal pieces of shyt. That said, two of my friends were libertarian sort of "let the world burn" sort of dudes, and the genuinely thought that although trump was a grifter criminal he would dismantle the administrative state and shrink government. They thought the good would outweigh the bad. Well they were dead wrong and now admit trump actually made the government bigger and more intrusive. They hate biden (for no good reason) and prob just wont vote in 2024, which is fine.

oh they are definitely into poker, they just get older and poorer every year. In 2016 MAGA hats were sort of common at the commerce, i remember the exact fish who wore them. Every single one of them is broke and gone or playing at 1/4 of the stakes they were then.

you took down my post - what a lame ass phoney pussy loser...

da hell are you on about?

I have the ability to take down no posts you lying scumbag piece of shyt

Can't wait til Bobo finds out he's a "lame ass phoney pussy loser". See ya around redbuck.

I thought the limon thread was a no moderation zone?

Just let the haymakers fly