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10-26-2023 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by D22-soso
Favorite Wayne joke?
Hi Wayne!
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10-27-2023 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mapletreeway
What's the most degenerate thing you've ever seen someone do related to gambling
was playing a golf skins match with a guy and you could press when down and it doubled the bets. he pressed 2nd hole to $200 then 400,800,1600,3200 by like the 13th hole. he kept losing wanted to press to 6400 and i said no, he went crazy saying i was a piece of **** for getting him buried and not letting him have a chance to win etc etc. but i didn't want to problem of collection. so at the end of the match he owed like 25k and said he'd pay later he owed a lot more to his bookie. apparently when i denied the last press he called his bookie and asked if the bookie would take the press, the bookie said yes to that and another press he lost and he owed the bookie more than he owed me!!!!!
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10-27-2023 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bobboufl11
Will you be there Nov 24-28? Flying in for poker trip and want to take shot a the game / buy you beer if this fits into your OMC schedule.
i dont see why i wouldn't be.
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10-27-2023 , 12:20 AM
As an LA grinder, do you know Yale Greenfield? Thoughts, opinions, any stories ?
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10-27-2023 , 12:32 AM
What's your honest opinion of Vegas 1/2 legend Tim "the trooper" Watts?
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10-27-2023 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Hi Wayne!
HI MY NAME IS
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10-27-2023 , 01:14 AM
You mentioned Bobby Hoff as a great player and he was until he had a stroke, but I always thought his partner Carl McKelvey was a better player overall, I played in gams with both of them many times over the years. Carl is still playing 25-50 games in Texas at 80 y/o. Did you ever play much with Carl?
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10-27-2023 , 02:51 AM
What part of LA do you live in?
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10-27-2023 , 09:17 AM
Didnt you also play in some of the San Fran games with people like El Diablo? Did you play with other 2p2 legend Ray Zee? Have a good story to share involving any of those 2p2 old timers?
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10-27-2023 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jrrdesert
You mentioned Bobby Hoff as a great player and he was until he had a stroke, but I always thought his partner Carl McKelvey was a better player overall, I played in gams with both of them many times over the years. Carl is still playing 25-50 games in Texas at 80 y/o. Did you ever play much with Carl?

I have played some with Carl. Confirmed still a good, winning player even at 80. Nice guy too.
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10-27-2023 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cold chillin
how old are you? do you have a wife and kids and ****? (or) do you want to?
52, married forever basically, no kids.
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10-27-2023 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
This is a really good post. We talked a few times via PM before you got banned lol. Not sure if it was on this sn or not though (pretty sure it was)

We have a lot of common -bw the things you mentioned here as well as never loaning/borrowing or staking /being staked.

Sometimes I feel like a unicorn for never getting inolved in any of that.

It also amuses me how many people always have to play the biggest game even when it's a total dog **** game in every possible way and a small game is better and more fun. Ego in poker is so ****ing stupid.

A few questions-

1)were you the drinking champion of commerce 10/20?

2) I may be wrong but it seems poker is just another form of AP for you. You said you didn't do any of the sports betting bonus whoring etc the last few years.

It's calmed down a lot but they were really giving money out hand over fist for a while. Although the Northeast was the best for it.

Did you not know how lucrative it was or did you just not want to travel for it?

3)what will you spread on blackjack? Most profitable blackjack year?

4) have you ever seen some anti social young bot type kid actually realize poker is best as a fun social game and actually become fun to play with?

5) you said you won't tell (most) people if you see their cards. Would you say anything if you saw a burn card or if someone put too much money in the pot ?

Curious why for ethical reasons you wont pull a Vertuci with steamed games,setting lineups and playing in them etc but will take the edge from seeing someone's cards

Fwiw I always tell people if I can see their cards once but If I see a blackjack dealer flashing for example I'm not saying ****.
1) nah, not even close, DGAF prob high on that list. I actually drank a lot more when I hosted PLO at the bike 2010-2016ish. they gave me $1000 a month in promotion money and i spent it all on wine for the table.

2) i heard about people doing it but im basically 90% retired and really lazy. if i do anything its mostly for fun, doesn't mean im not trying to win because winning is fun.

3) I try to sit at a table where someone is betting real big, then you can spread from minimum to whatever they are betting with no heat. I try to back count and wong in. hanging out w/big degens helps, going when high rollers are out in vegas helps. I never have huge BJ years because I live in LA, between banking LA games and Playing in vegas prob 50K cash and 10k comps would be a top year.

4) often. i let euro genders and asperger pros know they can easily be removed from all lists and invites and possibly be removed from the casino if they dont play nice. i let them know thy are in a great game and the game is not for them, its for the rec players and they need to be the best versions of themselves to hang around. ive never gone "fully private" like most games to keep these guys out, IME you can usually just mentor them. ive only had to ban two horrible offenders.

5) i tend not to say anything. often no one even believes you and it slows the game and causes an argument. i will always protect a rec player or someone who is good for the game i will basically never protect pros or nits. this is far different than buying a RFID table and sitting in security meetings and knowing everything about the operation, cameras, direction, and the lineup then planting yourself right in the middle of it with big money. imo, just my opinion. it just has a bad/smelly LOOK. even if everything is legit.
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10-27-2023 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
52, married forever basically, no kids.
Smart move! I'm about the same age as you, also married forever and a DINK. Should be able to retire from corporate life in a year or two, waaaay early. People frequently ask me, "how can you afford to retire so early?" My response is usually some form of "How many kids do you have? 3? OK, how much do you figure you spend on three kids over 25+ years you are financially responsible for them, including college? A million or so? OK, how about instead you had banked every penny of that money and let compound growth take care of the rest over a few decades? Boom, early retirement."
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10-27-2023 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stumeister
How did you get your start in hosting games for the casino? How exactly does that even work?
Casinos want games they DONT have, if you can go to a casino and offer them something they DONT have they will pay you for it. In a card room (like LA) they will pay a lot, in a "real casino" they will pay a little. In a "real casino" thy want you at slots or in the pit so most dont give a **** about poaching a stud game they dont spread, in a card room that possible million a year in added rake is all gravy, its not pulling from other gaming.

You can basically walk up t a cardroom GM and say, "is see theres no mix game here, you want 25-50 horse? i play with a group and can spread it here at $11/half hour collection. it will run 5 days a week at least." you then make a deal for a cut of the rake or a flat fee and if you can deliver the goods youre set! its 10x harder than it seems and 99% of hosts go broke in their own game. but if you can do it its gravy time.
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10-27-2023 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanedog11
Are you related to Sammy Hagar?
some would think so, ive had many people who personally know sammy be 100% sure im him from a distance/or behind come up to me saying YO SAMMY! lol

Over a decade ago an indian guy running a burger stand i liked was sure i was weird al yankovic. I autographed a menu for him as "weird al" and he put it in his window.
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10-27-2023 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by borisasaurus
As an LA grinder, do you know Yale Greenfield? Thoughts, opinions, any stories ?
nice guy. we dont play in same game.
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10-27-2023 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by timfbmx
What's your honest opinion of Vegas 1/2 legend Tim "the trooper" Watts?
hes a trailblazer, a poker survivor, he has taken advice from me in the past and gotten paid to play/host poker. he could have went A LOT farther with it. Hes not lazy but seems to get very comfortable with small wins. this isn't necessarily a bad thing if that is the sweet spot where you want to be but you can't complain about it later. i am the same in some ways, im very happy where im at and dont want to do anything extra and i never complain, i built this spot for better or worse.
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10-27-2023 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jrrdesert
You mentioned Bobby Hoff as a great player and he was until he had a stroke, but I always thought his partner Carl McKelvey was a better player overall, I played in gams with both of them many times over the years. Carl is still playing 25-50 games in Texas at 80 y/o. Did you ever play much with Carl?
nah, never.
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10-27-2023 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TroothSayer
What part of LA do you live in?
south pasadena/highland park area.
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10-27-2023 , 11:10 AM
Earlier in this thread you briefly mentioned limit holdem. I played limit holdem at the 15/30 to 40/80 level in LA from 1987 to 2005 before switching to NL as the good limit games almost disappeared. I left LA in 2009 but may return soon. Recently I've noticed on Bravo that reasonably sized limit games seem to be going well at the Commerce and Bike (with the understanding that a 60/120 today would play about as big as a 40/80 back then adjusted for inflation).

Is limit holdem growing again in the big card clubs in LA or did I just look at Bravo on a good day for limit? Are the limit holdem games reasonably good or are they filled with grinders, nut-peddlers and old men? Good games would be similar to the limit holdem games at Hollywood Park from 1995 to 2005.
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10-27-2023 , 11:12 AM
Best part of LA to move to for someone new to the area?
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10-27-2023 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Didnt you also play in some of the San Fran games with people like El Diablo? Did you play with other 2p2 legend Ray Zee? Have a good story to share involving any of those 2p2 old timers?
I used to play at "the palace" in Hayward before the boom. before 2003 No Limit holdem poker basically didn't exist, the palace was one of the few places that had it on the entire west coast. there were ZERO games in los angeles! I wrote a story about this long ago, its here on 2p2 somewhere under "limons lessons" i think.
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10-27-2023 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BrickMMA
Smart move! I'm about the same age as you, also married forever and a DINK. Should be able to retire from corporate life in a year or two, waaaay early. People frequently ask me, "how can you afford to retire so early?" My response is usually some form of "How many kids do you have? 3? OK, how much do you figure you spend on three kids over 25+ years you are financially responsible for them, including college? A million or so? OK, how about instead you had banked every penny of that money and let compound growth take care of the rest over a few decades? Boom, early retirement."
this.
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10-27-2023 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by middlebridge
Earlier in this thread you briefly mentioned limit holdem. I played limit holdem at the 15/30 to 40/80 level in LA from 1987 to 2005 before switching to NL as the good limit games almost disappeared. I left LA in 2009 but may return soon. Recently I've noticed on Bravo that reasonably sized limit games seem to be going well at the Commerce and Bike (with the understanding that a 60/120 today would play about as big as a 40/80 back then adjusted for inflation).

Is limit holdem growing again in the big card clubs in LA or did I just look at Bravo on a good day for limit? Are the limit holdem games reasonably good or are they filled with grinders, nut-peddlers and old men? Good games would be similar to the limit holdem games at Hollywood Park from 1995 to 2005.
the limit games aren't growing they just aren't shrinking, big public NLHE has basically disappeared. in 2007 there were 6++ $10-20 games going nightly in los angeles, now there are ZERO. the avg age in the limit games is about 65 but most aren't sophisticated players, still good value because its a solved game you can play close to perfect and squeak out every penny.
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10-27-2023 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
I used to play at "the palace" in Hayward before the boom. before 2003 No Limit holdem poker basically didn't exist, the palace was one of the few places that had it on the entire west coast. there were ZERO games in los angeles! I wrote a story about this long ago, its here on 2p2 somewhere under "limons lessons" i think.
Didn't even Rounders correct that? Thank you Moneymaker!
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