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01-10-2024 , 04:49 PM
What do you say to a poker player you see cheating? Ie leaving his bb close to his stack and then scooping them when no one is looking.
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01-10-2024 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
Limon,

Can you tell us some stories from your rounder days, when you traveled for work but only to cities with no limit Holdem games?

I do the same for work, but I’m in an industry that is infinitely more gambly than poker, so being a live low stakes winner is beneficial but all my good stories are about drinking/drugs and liaisons with locals. Interested to see if you battled with staying at the table with people that think a straight beats a flush or if you left to party.
I was a credit auditor at the time and so i was in stores early not a lot of partying, at night i wanted to get poker in. That said, when other executives were on the road with me it was always a drunken debacle and i couldn't make it to the casino. the CEO of the company could literally drink 20 rum n cokes and still be the first guy in the office so he tried to destroy everyone at the bar/club when he traveled with us.

The locations where these casinos were generally didn't lend themselves to partying for me at least. shitty sawdust joints in hayward,ca. sandia, nm. lubbock, tx. the palomar and vegas casinos back when there wasn't any daily no limit games and you had to play limit holdem with overs buttons!!!

this was so long ago $1-2-straddle nl was the biggest game going in these places. this tiny handful of casinos were basically the only DAILY NL on the entire west coast!! there wasn't a single NL game in all of los angeles of course 25 years ago uncapped 1-2 ($3 rake cap) was the equivalent of prob 5-5nl+ today. min wage was $5.15 an hour!!! another reason all the threads about playing 1-3 or whatever as a job are so sad, i was trying to get people to play bigger than $1-2, 25 years ago, the thought of playing those stakes today as a job is f'ing insane. that would have been like me playing .25-50 cent as a job in 1998. lolololol



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01-10-2024 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by limon

this was so long ago $1-2-straddle nl was the biggest game going in these places. this tiny handful of casinos were basically the only DAILY NL on the entire west coast!! there wasn't a single NL game in all of los angeles of course 25 years ago uncapped 1-2 was the equivalent of prob 5-5nl today. min wage was $5.15 an hour!!!


Hell, it's only $7.25 now. Federal, and in most states. I'm sure some states such as the People's Republic of California have jacked it up more than that, though, so maybe that's what you were thinking of.
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01-10-2024 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BrickMMA
Hell, it's only $7.25 now. Federal, and in most states. I'm sure some states such as the People's Republic of California have jacked it up more than that, though, so maybe that's what you were thinking of.
in 1st world states its $15 an hour at least.
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01-11-2024 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
1. no never. not even close. period. ive been offered great (and i mean great) cheating opportunities a half dozen times and declined. i have a spotless reputation over decades and have been involved in many millions of dollars in bets across all disciplines. i treat others as i would like to be treated.
So did you turn them in?
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01-11-2024 , 03:12 AM
Time for a slight reset. This is an AMA thread, so let's stick with sincere questions for limon (and I don't count questions like "why are you an *******?" as sincere ), and I'm sure you'll get sincere answers. Things have strayed from this quite a bit the last few weeks (not referring to any of the most recent posts), so I'd like to get it back on track. Thanks!
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01-11-2024 , 06:36 AM
A lot of negativity toward the game in this thread and on 2p2 in general. Calling poker a "dying industry" isn't really accurate and considering that most of the negativity is coming from the 50+ age group, I think some of you just need to learn to change with the times and let go of the past. We know that according to you, the game will never be as good as it was in 2002 again. But here we are in 2024 and a lot of people are still playing so...next.
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01-11-2024 , 07:43 AM
You mentioned Lubbock..

Did you ever play in any games with another 2+2 legend, Johnny Hughes?
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01-11-2024 , 08:34 AM
I don't have a question but I just want to say that your super old story about two guys arguing over who is more Greek is one of my favorite posts to ever grace 2p2. Hopefully you actually posted that and I am not misremembering..
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01-11-2024 , 10:02 AM
how did you track your poker activity? Did you log the financial aspect such as buy ins, wins losses, expenses, good games, bad games, best venue, etc. ?
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01-11-2024 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStackHunter
A lot of negativity toward the game in this thread and on 2p2 in general. Calling poker a "dying industry" isn't really accurate and considering that most of the negativity is coming from the 50+ age group, I think some of you just need to learn to change with the times and let go of the past. We know that according to you, the game will never be as good as it was in 2002 again. But here we are in 2024 and a lot of people are still playing so...next.
You either don’t get out much or aren’t very observant. Poker isn’t going away any time soon but it’s certainly dying. The community is rapidly aging and very few young people are interested in poker. The effects of the poker boom and moneymaker are mostly lost on gen z and alpha.
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01-11-2024 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
You either don’t get out much or aren’t very observant. Poker isn’t going away any time soon but it’s certainly dying. The community is rapidly aging and very few young people are interested in poker. The effects of the poker boom and moneymaker are mostly lost on gen z and alpha.
Tons of young people are interested in poker. Every college campus has games running. The reason poker is dying is because it's so damn easy to figure out how to not suck, so only the absolute dumbest people still lose while anyone with half a brain and any interest in keeping their money can at least breakeven. There's probably 1000 articles and youtube videos teaching you that you shouldn't open limp j7s and once you figure that out it's pretty trivial to be winning money at low stakes.
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01-11-2024 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mapletreeway
Tons of young people are interested in poker. Every college campus has games running. The reason poker is dying is because it's so damn easy to figure out how to not suck, so only the absolute dumbest people still lose while anyone with half a brain and any interest in keeping their money can at least breakeven. There's probably 1000 articles and youtube videos teaching you that you shouldn't open limp j7s and once you figure that out it's pretty trivial to be winning money at low stakes.
Whatever you say. I’m fairly sure there’s less 20somethings interested in poker today than there were in 2005. I’m also sure there’s less games running on college campuses than there were 10 years ago. But we can agree to disagree I don’t really care.
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01-11-2024 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
You either don’t get out much or aren’t very observant.
Seems like I'm not the one who's misunderstanding things. Stop living in the past and convincing yourself of all these bizarre things because you can't beat the games today. As you see, right away someone had to correct your ignorance.
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01-11-2024 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
Whatever you say. I’m fairly sure there’s less 20somethings interested in poker today than there were in 2005. I’m also sure there’s less games running on college campuses than there were 10 years ago. But we can agree to disagree I don’t really care.
What you're "sure" of means nothing. We've already established that you're clueless and living in the past. TONS of young people are interested in poker. It's a rapidly growing market both online and live. That's just a monetary fact. Dust the cobwebs off, take a shower, and get with 2024.
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01-11-2024 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStackHunter
Seems like I'm not the one who's misunderstanding things. Stop living in the past and convincing yourself of all these bizarre things because you can't beat the games today. As you see, right away someone had to correct your ignorance.
Please reference: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=1465
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01-11-2024 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStackHunter
What you're "sure" of means nothing. We've already established that you're clueless and living in the past. TONS of young people are interested in poker. It's a rapidly growing market both online and live. That's just a monetary fact. Dust the cobwebs off, take a shower, and get with 2024.
I honestly don’t have any interest in going back and forth with an idiot. I never commented on my ability to beat games in 2024. Simply making an observation on interest in poker from younger players. Not surprising you’re way too dumb to even comprehend that. Let’s just agree to disagree
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01-11-2024 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
I honestly don’t have any interest in going back and forth with an idiot. I never commented on my ability to beat games in 2024. Simply making an observation on interest in poker from younger players. Not surprising you’re way too dumb to even comprehend that. Let’s just agree to disagree
Yet you're the one who needed to have their entire foundation of understanding immediately corrected by multiple people. There are young people getting into the game, the industry is growing rapidly financially (live and online, believe that or not), and the game is in no way a "dying industry" as was the original claim I took objection to. It's growing. Rapidly.

So, sure...we can agree to disagree based on those facts.
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01-11-2024 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BrickMMA
this bickering is ok. what bobo is talking about is some stalker dude who was chasing me around the forums and threatening me with violence. there are some real nuts on here.
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01-11-2024 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kanedog11
What do you say to a poker player you see cheating? Ie leaving his bb close to his stack and then scooping them when no one is looking.
some real talk here, how much is he losing? if hes losing a buy on an hour ill pay his blinds, lol. if hes your general angle shooting loser i will politely say to the dealer, "where's the big blind?" when she points to it i will say "please move it forward, i cant see it, my fault my fault". this will nearly always end it with no feelings hurt and losers keep losing. if the player is break even or bad for the game at all i will straight call him out, accuse of cheating and try to get him banned from the casino. this is pro poker.
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01-11-2024 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by c double
So did you turn them in?
1. I tend to like to stay above ground breathing

2. turn them in to who? lololololol

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01-11-2024 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Time for a slight reset. This is an AMA thread, so let's stick with sincere questions for limon (and I don't count questions like "why are you an *******?" as sincere ), and I'm sure you'll get sincere answers. Things have strayed from this quite a bit the last few weeks (not referring to any of the most recent posts), so I'd like to get it back on track. Thanks!
there have been ZERO literally ZERO people that have come to me in good faith with genuine curiosity that have not been treated with respect and dignity in this thread or any other thread i have posted in. When people come at me with negativity snark or disrespect they get that back TEN FOLD. Many posters here aren't used to the posts of an according to hoyle genius multi millionaire legend of poker. When i cut right to the chase and jump 10 steps past where they were thinking it scares them and they lash out like infants. When i make a post in a thread i am generally giving the correct and final answer, the reaction from my inferiors is fear. How do i know this? you can look at the things i say in other threads and there will be others (randoms/unknowns) who post nearly the same thing but they are not attacked. When i post i am viciously attacked. the inferiors cant just ignore what ive said as a random comment, they know their superior has spoken, they receive a narcissistic injury and must lash out.
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01-11-2024 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStackHunter
A lot of negativity toward the game in this thread and on 2p2 in general. Calling poker a "dying industry" isn't really accurate and considering that most of the negativity is coming from the 50+ age group, I think some of you just need to learn to change with the times and let go of the past. We know that according to you, the game will never be as good as it was in 2002 again. But here we are in 2024 and a lot of people are still playing so...next.
calling poker a dying industry is 100% accurate. The games get smaller every year. in 2008 there were at least 12 $10-20nl++ public games running on a friday night in LA. in 2023 theres probably one!!! The same is true in vegas where bigger games are increasingly private/semi private, these are the poker capitols of the world. these are easily proven facts. yes you might want to be in this industry still, but the FACT that it is a dying industry AT THE LEVELS NECESSARY TO MAKE REAL MONEY (150k a year+++) is irrefutable
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01-11-2024 , 12:44 PM
I mean, is this even true? High stakes live poker really doesn't seem to be diminishing very much. Even the WSOP continues to grow in $$ each year.

In any event, calling it a dying industry is just a bridge a little too far. In my honestly humble opinion. I'm clueless next to some of you. Not all of you, though.

Do you think Chess is a dying industry/game?
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01-11-2024 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vaquero
You mentioned Lubbock..

Did you ever play in any games with another 2+2 legend, Johnny Hughes?
i assume so. i dont remember a lot of the people i played with way back then. ray zee a couple times in colma iirc, sunny mehta, banker sam, matt flynn, bobby hoff, joe "win" herzog, mansour, bob stupak once, jack ryan, fisherman greg, puggy (the cheat), gabe kaplan many others. there weren't really big DAILY no limit games back then only during the WSOP and i was a small fish shot taker at that point in the late 90s early 2000s so i didn't play with a lot of the "old legends" much. I was in los angeles most of the time and it was nearly 100% limit poker.
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