Hey, I am BetAgainst. 51yo White Male. Las Vegas. I am 6'1" around 200. Balding. Ugly face. Dad bod. Bad posture. Poor complexion. Bad teeth. Always broke due to degenerate gambling. However, I have enjoyed a pretty successful dating life over the last ten years. I have dated models, strippers, bottle service girls, cocktail waitresses, and a few high level professional or independent business women.

I am starting this thread because I am in a stable long term relationship right now (very happy) and I want to share how I got to this place. And I have a ton of notes from dating coaches that I am wanting to data dump somewhere before I delete them. And I have helped many of my friends (mostly younger than me) find girlfriends that they are happy with.

Anyway, I have tons of great pick up stories and some solid dating/relationship advice. Ask away!

TEASER: Three don'ts (and WAY more important than they seem)
Don't disgust her.
Don't annoy her.
Don't disappoint her.

how many kids did you make with these fine ladies?

isn't ur physical appearance constantly breaking the first don't? (no offense lolz)

Luckily and thankfully no unwanted pregnancies. However, I did have a girl try to turkey baste me one time.

My appearance. I am not attractive. My buddies make fun of me all the time about how ugly I am however, I am always showing up with a new hot girl. Long story short, when it comes to female attraction, looks don't matter. Women are attracted to confidence, social status, positive emotions, good vibes, a guy that can make them laugh.

What are some things you have done to enhance your social status or are you a casino exec/nightclub security supervisor or something like that where the status comes to you naturally? I am fairly successful in my professional career, but I am struggling in getting serious with women I really like (i.e. I tend to do well with the office types, when I am more attracted to the nightlife/rave/model types that seem to be your area of expertise).

I don't like it that you view yourself ugly and let your friends treat you that way.

So dating in Vegas is a pay4play scene?

Good read. I've been a bartender for 25 years. Eighteen years in Vegas. So, that helps out a lot with situational status, confidence in social situations, and conversation. However, no one needs to be a bartender to achieve that. Find a nice bar near where one lives and become a regular. Get to know the bartenders and waitress staff. Be the cool laid back guy that tips everyone. That's your home base.

If there is a specific type of female you are interested in meeting then find out where they hang out and become a regular there as well.

Almost everyone in the service industry likes to hang out after work and have a few cocktails. If you get to know the staff eventually you will be invited to come along.

I dated a bottle service girl that worked at a couple of strip clubs here in Vegas. Every night after work her and her coworkers would go out to breakfast after work. So, I'd wind up having breakfast and bloody Marys with the bar back from the club and four or five strippers. Those breakfasts were more fun than the club.

Bro, I am ugly. That is just being honest.

My buddies tease me about it only because I manage to pull attractive women in spite of my looks. That is a good thing. I have game. Game trumps good looks all day.

Money doesn't matter.

Examples of common ways men may do these things without realizing?

Hot girls have TONS of options so they screen hard to eliminate guys.

Don't disgust her: Take a shower. Wash your balls. Twice. Manscape. Brush your teeth. Use mouth wash. Use deodorant. Wear clean clothes. Make hygiene a priority. Women will test you on this.

Don't annoy her: Don't chase. Hot girls have ten, maybe twenty, guys who are chasing them. Don't be that guy. Most of my dates come from meeting a girl in person and then trying to connect via social media. I will share some texting examples however, ones main frame should be: I am here if you want this and if not I will move along.

Don't disappoint her: What ever it is that you do to generate attraction from a female STAY CONSISTENT. If you attracted a female because you were the fun guy at the party or the guy who was buying her drinks or whatever then MAINTAIN that frame. An easy way to avoid this mistake is ALWAYS BE GENUINE AND HONEST.

PRIMO EXAMPLE: I met this girl at the bar. Super cute Asian girl. I had to work hard to get her number. I texted her A LOT. My frame was: you are super cute, you seem like a cool person, we should hang out. Eventually she responded, Okay let's go. Unfortunately, I was drunk and playing poker at that time so I declined. Her response was, GFY LOSE MY NUMBER NEVER TEXT ME AGAIN. I ****ed up. I presented myself as a guy who wanted to hang out and have fun. That was my offer. She invested in that. When I didn't come through on that offer she rejected me hard.

I'm not in Vegas but i think you can say something interesting.

Since I finished university and began grinding online poker everyday I see no chicks at all. The only thing I have are the same old girls from the past that are not so interested.

Tried Tinder, but it sucked. I miss the times where i could just meet girls randomly on the streets, nowadays the only thing I see are the same guys grinding online.

What would you do in my situation? (I'm not ugly,fat or bald. And grinding less is not an option)

Get out. Socialize. Find a bar or a restaurant that you enjoy. Get to know the staff. Hang out. Tip well. What ever you enjoy: sushi, steakhouse, clubs , what ever. Once you become a regular at a place you have a great opportunity to invite someone to enjoy what you enjoy.

I am a huge astronomy nerd. I am into it. That is the nerdiest **** ever. However, I got my girl into it too. She is following my lead.

Follow your passions and eventually you will attract a female that aligns with you.

1) What is the age range of women you were seeing while you were single? If they are significantly younger than you (more than 15 or 20 years) is it an unspoken expectation that you pay for dates 100% of the time?

2) What do you think you do that sets yourself above people in your age demographic? I'm just having trouble picturing a self-proclaimed ugly dude in his 40s picking up girls especially younger very attractive girls without something to seriously offset the age/looks (usually money, which you say you don't have much of). You say you're confidence and have status, but please elaborate. For example, where is this "status" coming from when you're broke? By that do you mean strong social skills?

3) Do you fk with feminists and/or single moms? Or are they strictly short-term relationship material for you?

4) Are there any dating coaches out there with free content that you would recommend checking out?

1) I have dated mostly between 25-35 with one girl that was 40 and one my age (my current relationship). And YES always pay for dates.

2) Young attractive women aren't chasing looks or money. Sure, there are gold diggers out there however, no one wants to date them anyway. I think for the most part girls are looking for a fun, down to earth, chill guy who isn't really looking for sex or a relationship... And if you are a fun guy who likes to hangout and have fun then sex or dates or whatever will happen naturally.

3) I have dated single Moms. Single Moms want to have fun too. I have two kids of my own so, I am very respectful of their children. Honestly, though I guess I always put them in the short term category.

4) Dating coaches with free content? Tons of them. Any of Owen Cook (Rsd Tyler) although he is super advanced. Playing with Fire guys are pretty strong as far as pick up goes. Ultimate Man Project (particularly Marcus).

Ultimately successful dating comes down to YOU creating a life that you enjoy and then inviting women into that world. And it doesn't matter what that is. Seriously, it doesn't matter what you are into. Somewhere out there their is a girl that will share your interest. Just be authentic. You would be surprised how far that will get you.

My fastest pick up. And this was so strong. I was walking out of Red Rock casino around 2a. Buzzing but not too drunk. Just feeling good. A cute girl was walking in. She was paused at the door digging in her purse.

I said, Come on let's go.

She asked, "Go where?!"

I said, I'm drinking too much here. Let's go back to my place and have a drink.

She said, "I don't drink."

I said, Do you smoke?

She said, "Yes."

I said, We can smoke on my balcony." And I walked out the door.

I heard her say, "Okay?"

The only reason that worked was because I was genuinely in my own space and just looking to hang out and have fun. If she told me to **** off then I would be okay. She could feel that. We went back to my place. She sparked up a joint. I said, we should watch a movie. She said, "We should take a shower first"

Women want to hang out and have fun way more than men. However, they are way more selective than men. Your job is to be that fun cool guy that provides them with that opportunity void of judgement.��

My fastest pick up. And this was so strong. I was walking out of Red Rock casino around 2a. Buzzing but not too drunk. Just feeling good. A cute girl was walking in. She was paused at the door digging in her purse.

I said, Come on let's go.

She asked, "Go where?!"

I said, I'm drinking too much here. Let's go back to my place and have a drink.

She said, "I don't drink."

I said, Do you smoke?

She said, "Yes."

I said, We can smoke on my balcony." And I walked out the door.

I heard her say, "Okay?"

Well played.
Hopefully you washed your balls, and then she washed them twice.