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01-26-2022 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FromSkinny
The is a side called sixplusholdem... But it all expensive there...
yeah, as Coixdog wrote there is not a lot of information out there for 6+ and therefore everything is more expensive but in the same time all the information is more valuable as well.
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01-26-2022 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LePatronCabron
yeah, as Coixdog wrote there is not a lot of information out there for 6+ and therefore everything is more expensive but in the same time all the information is more valuable as well.
Understand... So if we can say, how does the outlook look like for 6+ Holdem... Are there any toruneys etc... I guess 98% still playing NLHE?
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01-26-2022 , 08:35 AM
I think that as well a lot of Russian players are playing 6+? Is that right?
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01-26-2022 , 09:12 AM
Sorry one more Question, what would you suggest is a good BR Managamnet when you start at the lowest limikts the 2cent Ante...
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01-28-2022 , 03:55 AM
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Understand... So if we can say, how does the outlook look like for 6+ Holdem... Are there any toruneys etc... I guess 98% still playing NLHE?

6+ definitely becoming more popular, now even big live events like EPT include 6+ mtts in their series, same as for online events. I don't think that 6+ will ever overtake NLHE in terms of popularity but I think the gap will be a lot smaller then it is now.
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01-28-2022 , 03:56 AM
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I think that as well a lot of Russian players are playing 6+? Is that right?
There are Russian players playing 6+ but China has probably the biggest player pool for 6+
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01-28-2022 , 03:57 AM
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Sorry one more Question, what would you suggest is a good BR Managamnet when you start at the lowest limikts the 2cent Ante...
I think we discussed this before here, somewhere, but 150 BI is good bankroll management but if you dont need that money for living, have different sources of income and you can allow losing all bankroll on 2 cent games then you go with more aggressive bankroll management.
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01-28-2022 , 04:48 AM


Nice series of MTTs coming for 6+ - 3,3k is about 500$ and 330 is about 50ish.
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01-28-2022 , 08:42 AM
Hi guys!
I started to study 6+ and I had a question.

When I watched the Santazzz (Saloos!!!) stream, I noticed that he starts the game with a short stack of 50 ante.
Do we need to have a deeper stack to implement our edge like in a full deck?
Or does he do it for the action on the streams?

What do you think about it?
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01-28-2022 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slyless
Hi guys!
I started to study 6+ and I had a question.

When I watched the Santazzz (Saloos!!!) stream, I noticed that he starts the game with a short stack of 50 ante.
Do we need to have a deeper stack to implement our edge like in a full deck?
Or does he do it for the action on the streams?

What do you think about it?
Zeah same I have a s well noticed...
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01-29-2022 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slyless
Hi guys!
I started to study 6+ and I had a question.

When I watched the Santazzz (Saloos!!!) stream, I noticed that he starts the game with a short stack of 50 ante.
Do we need to have a deeper stack to implement our edge like in a full deck?
Or does he do it for the action on the streams?

What do you think about it?
50A strategy is profitable if there are asymmetrical stacksizes, in particular, if others have 100A+ stacks and the reason for that is even though they know that 50A stack jams pretty wide players can't call what they should because they are worried of other big stacks behind them.

For example, UTG with 50A jams A9s, MP with 100A+ has ATs which is very strong hand versus 50A shove but MP might fold this hand since player is scared that some other stack behind him may wake up with better hand.
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01-30-2022 , 01:42 PM
So would you say that adopting a 50 Buy in strategy is good to start?
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01-30-2022 , 02:18 PM
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So would you say that adopting a 50 Buy in strategy is good to start?
Its definitely a good start since you will have less postflop decisions and easier to transition into short deck game and dynamic. However, for 50A preflop is very important so I would recommend learning preflop ranges.
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01-30-2022 , 03:34 PM
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Its definitely a good start since you will have less postflop decisions and easier to transition into short deck game and dynamic. However, for 50A preflop is very important so I would recommend learning preflop ranges.
Thanks for your answear...

I just need to see what I'm going to do, as I just have started in a Soin and Go Stable... But really not sure if I can motivate myself to grind those Spin and Goes...

I think you have been before a very good Spin and Go Player yourself?
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01-31-2022 , 03:17 AM
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Thanks for your answear...

I just need to see what I'm going to do, as I just have started in a Soin and Go Stable... But really not sure if I can motivate myself to grind those Spin and Goes...

I think you have been before a very good Spin and Go Player yourself?
I would not say a very good but profitable, yeah. What I did not like about Spins was that you cannot really table select, okay, sure, if you know that games at this hour are reggish then you can avoid those hours but in general you can end up playing 10 Spins with 2 regs in a row and then for sure these are not +EV games unless you are sick crusher and have edge on regs. Also, as far as I know Spins are not very soft anymore these days, in particular, 60s and above and hourly there is not great.
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01-31-2022 , 10:10 AM
Hey sorry another question,

on GG Poker I see that 6+ is 5 Handed how much does it change to Pojesrtars 5 Handed game? You need to make any adjustments or so..

And I see as well that on GG Poker there are so many Asian and Chinese players...
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01-31-2022 , 10:15 AM
Yeah, there is definitely different dynamics between GG poker and Pokerstars. I can't specifically say whats different since dynamics change also from limits to limits, i.e. game at 10$ tables will be a lot different then game at 0.25$ games. So you just have to try Pokerstars and GG Poker I guess to decide which platform you personally like better - I know regs who play only at Pokerstars and vice versa.
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01-31-2022 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LePatronCabron
50A strategy is profitable if there are asymmetrical stacksizes, in particular, if others have 100A+ stacks and the reason for that is even though they know that 50A stack jams pretty wide players can't call what they should because they are worried of other big stacks behind them.

For example, UTG with 50A jams A9s, MP with 100A+ has ATs which is very strong hand versus 50A shove but MP might fold this hand since player is scared that some other stack behind him may wake up with better hand.
It's clear.
Apparently, 6+ is in the same stage of development as hold'em in the late 2000s with hordes of SSS players maddening full-stack players
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02-01-2022 , 06:51 AM
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It's clear.
Apparently, 6+ is in the same stage of development as hold'em in the late 2000s with hordes of SSS players maddening full-stack players
I agree definitely with this.
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02-03-2022 , 07:08 PM
However SSS players were far more frustrating to play against. Greetings from the discord.
P.s.: you are all noob 2021 accounts!
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06-02-2023 , 09:36 PM
I'm just surfing through, a little curious about a game I've never played before, but my gosh this is like fingernails on a blackboard:
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[*]Do you use that feature that allows you to take a portion of an all-in pot according to your EV? It costs something like 0.5% of the pot if I remember correctly. In theory, it should reduce variance, but in practice, it reduces your win rate which increases variance.[/LIST]
The only way that is remotely true is we go full-descriptive-linguistics and accept that variance has taken on a special meaning only in poker jargon of "probability of a downswing." And yeah descriptively it probably has. But that's both wasting a perfectly good term and introducing confusion, because poker is still pretty closely involved with stats, and variance is a stats term with a precise meaning that is not at all that.

Splitting a pot according to all-in EV is decreasing variance, not increasing it. How could that not be true?

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Originally Posted by CoachCoixdog6+
  1. The variance in 6+ is huge, but as I said, you will have a much higher winrate, so if you are running super bad while having 20bbEV+ winrate, you will simply break even instead of losing money
Yep. THAT is the way I wish people would talk about variance and winrate (mean) interacting.
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04-21-2024 , 11:42 PM
is the variance more comparable to plo4 or plo5?
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